he would be able to pay anywhere near the fine, the penalty that may be levied in this case. there s the over arching idea of immunity. in the little bit we played right now talks about his example with president zelenskyy and quid pro quo, got him impeached the first time around. his lawyers went so far as to suggest a president could use navy seal team 6 to assassinate a political foe and he would have immunity unless it went through congress first. this is someone who is obviously deeply concerned about the legal matters he faces. as much as his campaign has used them as rallying cries, they have bolstered his poll numbers within the republican primary field, though a general election later this year might be a different story, but personally you can tell how anxious he is about this. it comes through in his remarks there, and in private conversations he s had. usa today captures just how
what if it was suddenly trump tower without donald trump. some of the biggest buildings in the former president s real estate portfolio are at risk as his civil fraud trial nears its end. not only trump tower but trump park avenue, 40 wall street, 1290 avenue of the americas and two of his golf properties. joining me now, federal and white collar criminal defense attorney, caroline pelosi, and former u.s. attorney and former white collar defense attorney, paul charleston, new york times business investigations editor, and author of towers, david enrick joins me as well. can you just explain what actually could be the penalties involving these buildings? is it that his name is stripped off of them, he can t manage them, he can t collect money off
it. so far we seem to do very well. are you going to be back in time for the e. jean carroll. that s another one, sponsored by reid hoffman. i never saw this woman in my life, other than a picture with her and her husband, jonathan lemire john johnson, she said horrible things about him. called him bad names. i have no idea we re hearing familiar themes from donald trump, but i think a key question that was asked just as we were going in was really the one of immunity. there were arguments on tuesday, a panel of judges listening to arguments, trump and his teams trying to make the case that while he was president, what he did was immune from prosecution. joining me, the host of way too early and politico bureau chief, jonathan lemire, throughout this as we have been watching what s going on in a
its closing arguments in donald trump s civil fraud trial after a dramatic scene in which the former president himself addressed the court. the judge had only allowed trump to speak on the condition that he focus on the facts but the president quickly veered into other territory claiming he is an innocent man being persecuted d the judge telling defense counsel please control your client. th former president has already been found liable for inflating properties to get loan deals. the judge will attempt to issue his ruling by the end of the month. yasmin vossoughian is reporting for us outside the courtroom in new york. vaughn hillyard is urbandale, iowa, also with us, renato,