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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

i screwed up. mhm. i got us t-mobile home internet. now cell phone users have priority over us. and your marriage survived that? you can almost feel the drag when people walk by with their phones. oh i can t hear you. you re froze ladies, please! you put it on airplane mode when you pass our house. i was trying to work. we re workin it too. yeah! work it girl! woo! i want to hear you say it out loud. well, i could switch us to xfinity. those smiles. that s why i do what i do. a few hours after the executio that and the paycheck. style killing of doug carlisle in the kitchen of his house in south hill, it was too clear this had to have been professional hit now every availabl investigator, nearly 20 of the chased the scattered clues did you actually need the all? yes, i kept them busy one detective his whole job wa to identify the white van. remember the white van th neighbors saw. was van was unique off. it was after factor extended van that they make for certain pr

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:53:00

Lonely spot 20 miles out o town suckow said he did the digging while henrikson stood nearby i remember standing in th hole, and he said somethin like how much is this going to cost me, and i said, $20,000 and he choked. 20,000 it s first-degree murder, man, it s the death penalty and i turned back around, took a couple more shovel loads and turned back at him, and said don t shoot me in the back o the head while i m digging thi hole he really should have. anyway, he said, he got the 20 grand, and he burned th bloody clothes investigators found buttons an other evidence of that bur pile

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:38:00

Crime groups that he implied having connections to. i don t know. if i go through with it, i m not that worried about it. you guys, you know, put all th charges that you want on me, and, like, you know if i don t say anything, i don t sa anything whatever, they kill me did he think you were buyin it in his mind he thought we were buying it it s so outlandish, nobody i going to believe that. trouble was, investigator in north dakota and spokan still didn t have enough solid evidence to tie james henrikso to the murders of k.c. clark and doug carlisle. for that they would have t keep digging while henrikson waited in jail

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:47:00

Part that i was thinking of. we didn t have a body. we had no forensic evidence. so to get a conviction, the would need these two sketchy characters who allegedly o orders from henrikson had done some truly awful things. if they didn t tell the stor and make the jury believe it henrikson would get away wit murder, but if they did tell it, what sort of credibility wit would a person like that have? my concern is our mos important witness is going t admit that he killed two people, literally beat k.c clark s brains out how do you handle that? you have to embrace it. our number two witness had a tattoo on his back of hi urinating on the headstone o the last guy he killed these are our two star witnesses. still, tim suckow was by fa the most important witness could tell the jury chapter an verse about the many twisted and homicidal plots set in motion by james henrikson. two nights before the trial wa to begin, attorneys jones an amed went to see suckow,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:55:00

mr. carlisle had already threatene mr henrikson that he was going to get him out of the oil drillin business and that was the thing that triggered this whole bids. yeah, they were each trying to get each other out of the deal at the trial, prosecutors introduced hundreds of tex message, an almost play by pla account as the plan rolled out you can watch a text messag go from henrikson to deleo, an the content is passed to sucko and back other way negotiations over payment, who s going to be there, doe he have an alarm system. so when doug carlisle returned from church tha evening in december, suckow wa waiting, he brought a heav welding glove in case he had t punch in a window. he didn t have to.

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