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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130626:14:04:00

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130626:14:29:00

well, that s what the problem is. that you ve been granted equal rights and then the federal government comes in and says, you don t have them anymore. so there s going to be a question of what this means when a state hasn t granted any rights at all. so the 38 or 37 states that haven t granted marriage equality, we re going to have to litigate that and see what happens going forward. and kenji, literally, writing a book on prop 8. i am indeed. so i want to get your analysis of this, and very interesting about the chief justice. yeah. i am not actually that surprised by that, given that on standing issues, which is really just a procedural technical issue. that s transsubstantive so doesn t matter whether it s a gay rights case or bankruptcy case or what have you. and is on standing issues, the right wing court has been very, very restrictive with respect to standing. so i m not surprised there is this cross fertilization. i was in the court for argument for the perry case beca

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since massachusetts has allowed same-sex marriage. none, literally none, zero of the predictions of negative effects have come true. so this is one more case of reality defeating prejudice. i just want to say, and stay with us for a second, congressman, we are learning from pete williams that justice scalia is reading from the bench, so it will be a little while, at least a few minutes, before we get the actual prop 8 ruling. but i know racheled wanted to talk. just a clarifying question on this. evan a long time ago had identified the experience of same-sex couples having some recognition here as being like your rights fading in and out like cell phone service as you travel around the country. and that s always struck with me because that has been my experience. you have to know which state you re in as a gay person, the way you don t have to as a straight person in terms of knowing whether or not you are going to be respected. with this decision today, and understanding that we d

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years. actually, after the oral argument, you mentioned the supreme court. they came down to 44 steps of the supreme court and one of her lawyers said this is one step for every year this couple has been together. so that means that, you know, when her wife passed away, they were next of kin, in the eyes of new york state. but they were legal strangers in the eyes of the federal government and she got hit with a $363,000 estate tax she would not have had to pay. she would have paid zero if she was married to a man. that is correct. and so now those kinds of penalties are gone, because the federal government must now treat same-sex couples who are married in the eyes of their state the same as opposite sex couples. hard to say how huge this is, jamal in the sense we re talking about more than a thousand laws, regulations that will affect same-sex couples. it s a much bigger decision than i think a lot of legal experts expected in this case. and as kenji said, there are real cons

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seeing over the internet about the case seem to suggest that justice kennedy has is enunciating a brand new standard. i want to bring in evan wilson, founder and president of freedom to marry. this is the only organization that s devoted solely to legalizing gay marriage. good morning, thanks for joining us. and your reaction. it s a momentous day for america. it s a momentous day for american families. the court did the right thing today. they got it wrong yesterday. but today was a big one. and what this does is it adds the moral weight of the federal government and in many instances the legal weight of the federal government toward ending the patchwork of discrimination that prevents committed couples in far too many states from sharing in the protections and responsibilities that come with marriage. but what it does mean is those couples who are legally married will now be treated by the federal government as what they are, married. and i look forward to seeing the administra

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