some strength of the human spirit and warnings in people who are coming out here to help strangers they don t know. the 30 only different route languages. but there are people out here who see that this is wrong, and are just trying to help their fellow people. it s not gonna stop the war, it s not gonna help people who are displaced from their home. it doesn t matter how nice the hungarians are to them. they sought to leave their homes. you see the images. they re crying, they re desperate, stand, stunned. but there are people who have come out here and said come into my home, come into my country. let s do what we can to make this a little bit right in the horrible mess that we re seeing. i m sorry to tell you mr. velshi, you re mistaken. there is one organizing force behind this. they re being led by love! yeah. ali velshi, stay close. love, compassion, and humanity, leaving the way?
naval war college at harvard extension school. and michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia, and then msnbc international affairs analyst. tom, what sticks out to you tonight and what we re learning about this? one of the things that is very striking to me is, that the intention here wants to destroy it, somehow. my guess is they re trying to capture that part of the grid, shut off the electricity, and people have to remember that if there were a disaster at the spa and, most of that would actually blow into russia. because of the way the winds go. so, once again, the thing i m struck by is the recklessness and incompetence of the russians in this iron fisted attempts to seize ukraine and intimidate its people. i don t think, at this point, the goal was to destroy this plant. but, this is classic russian
on this crisis in ukraine. take us tomorrow. well tonight s attack on this power plant, will it change the calculation, the position this white house is taking? stephanie, the white house is very measured in the way that it s dealing with this situation as well as with vladimir putin s threat about advancing the nuclear wars tactic. this is a crossing of the rubicon. what vladimir putin did by having his hands showing a nuclear facility is violating international law, violating his commitment to ensure that there would not be attacks on a nuclear facility that is of civilian use, and so, he s kind of cross the rubicon and put us into a whole other zone of strategy. now, he s probably trying to scare and terrorize, clearly, the ukrainian civilians cut off their power.
well i was also on ukrainian tv, and i really appreciate by the way i appreciate the way ukrainians are on your show tonight. these are people i know. i think the ukrainian voice in this debate needs to be louder here in our country. so people can understand, and listen to what they re doing. i really applaud that. i was on tv today with ukrainian journalists podcasting from the big television station. that big power in the middle of kyiv. that was literally just beyond, i think 24 hours ago. right next to bobby i can t remember. the time is all blending to me. so it s important to think about my security, when those people are being brave and trying to brave information in their country. the least i can do is to participate in the discussions in ukraine. but especially in russia. my ukrainian friends, they say please, please, please help us.
putin is worried about news. and by the way, i was on both those programs just within the last five days. they don t want people like me talking about this war in russian. and he cut them off. at the same time, it s a demographic thing. the older you are, the more rural place you live, the less educated you are, the more likely you are to listen to putin s national television stations. and when you say that people are watching those clips of people being interviewed, they will say this is the right thing to do. we have to eliminated nazis just as we did before. so there s a much bigger deny in russian culture, in the way that they perceive this war. in all of your u.s. tv, but to this point, you have been on russian tv. and ukrainian tv. are you worried about your own safety?