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reaching inside and what used to well, i guess it s still general motors holmes apartment and they re slowly tearing out the vertical blinds and things like that, getting rid of the screen and the window flames, making entry and trying to disarm that apparently potentially deadly mess that he left, that you almost walked into. yes, and you know, seeing the pictures is a little surreal and seeing my plants in the windows and just everything and you know, we re not that worried about our stuff. we try not to worry about, we want to worry about people being safe, but it s still, it s just a little bit of a toll on you. jon: well, you re safe apparently because you listened to that inner voice that said don t push the door open. yes, i m so thankful for that. jon: we all are, and we don t need more victims in this tragedy. no, we do not. jon: kaitlin fonzy and chris rodriguez, thank you both. we re going to continue to