we ll come to another of your values later, which is christianity, it s very important to you, to your family. did that mean that the morality of capital punishment, notjust the practicalities of how you legislate, was something that you did discuss at home? yes, i think we did, because i mean, that that early period, i was very young. but i remember very distinctly in 1979, so the conservative manifesto, there was a conservative manifesto commitment to have a debate on on making capital punishment available to the courts again. and they moved very quickly because the election was may and injuly they had this vote. i had just done my o levels, my sister had just done her a levels and we went to listen to the debate and i can remember the night before my father brought the speech home, the willie whitelaw speech. the home secretary. he was the home secretary for margaret thatcher. i mean, willie whitelaw view was not in favour of capital punishment. margaret thatcher s, i think, was,