ultimately as mr. emblig said, there is a perception issue and the ethics commission, i believe should take every action that it possibly can to avoid the perception of impropriety and to avoid the appearance of conflict. so that is why i raised the issue and i think that the director making the presentation would alleviate that concern, because the director is not counsel for the commission or the board. i am a little confused as to why the board can t have other counsel. i have no objection to the board retaining other counsel. i didn t realize that your engagement at the present time that you engaged by the board, have you been advising the board during our proceedings? yes. and there has been one meeting about procedure with the board. one public meeting. i apologize, commissioners, were you waiting? did you have a question or just a general pause? i guess i am a little surprised and i don t know why the board doesn t have independent counsel. i can t answer
transcript of all of the questions of all of the issues that have come up more than you. and yes, you casted the dissenting vote. i am not sure what the hearing will be like before the board of supervisors, but i don t know, but i would think that those of us who can be in attendance, should there be questions. i don t have any lack of ability in your confidence. you may not want to is a whole other issue. you may not want to. [ laughter ] no comment. do the parties have any objection if it were to be me? thank you, commissioners for considering the issue. i completely agree with commissioner hayon and believe that commission hur has done a magnificent job with these proceedings and would do an outstanding job before the board. it doesn t leave very much room to say much. the mayor has no objection. okay. i m willing to do it. it is awkward, given that i was in the dissenting view, but i will do my best. so before we vote on the order and how it s presented, can w
given my neutral position. but i m open to whatever the commission would like. mr. wagner? i think mr. hemblig said it well in pointing out that it raises a perception issue. the question is so are you advocating then that rather than mr. emblig, who will give a neutral, as he put it dry presentation, you would want someone from the majority to go there and make the presentation? is that what you are suggesting? no. who do you think should do it? well, we objected to any one from the commission. well, if we re going to send someone, mr. wagner, so if you object to mr. emblig. i don t think it s fair, respectfully commissioner to put it back on us who is the best person to advocate your position to the board in the process? we re giving you an opportunity to weigh in on how we should present this to the board. if you are going to object to mr. emblig and have no other suggestion, that is fine. but i m giving you that opportunity and if you decline it, tha
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commissioner liu? thank you. i do understand commissioner hayon s concern for taking a position on the consequences and what effect the misconduct charges should have. however, i think that i am more inclined to agree with chair hur on this particular issue, because and the reason is because we were so careful in analyzing what the charter says and what the standards are and we parsed the language. we were trying to be true to what each of felt what the charter allowed us to do and not do. so i would not feel comfortable now straying from that principle and doing something that i really don t see that the charter allows us to do. so for that reason, i wouldn t want to take a recommendation on it, simply because that is not what i think we re authorized to do under the charter. and if we have been true to what we each believe the charter allows or doesn t allow and i understand commissioner renne s point of view as well, but for myself, i think because i have been sticking