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to sell stuff, and when it comes down to it, when you ve got to sell stuff, elon musk is really no different than larry fink, jamie dimon and every other corporate oligarch that i know. i like these guys [laughter] howard: yeah. it s a them of endearment for you. i know you train all the time, are we ever going to see this cage match between musk and zuck? i don t think so. based on what i know, and i only know this from listening to joe rogan, zuck will kill elon musk. howard: yeah. which is why elon musk is not going to do it. all right, charlie, no cage match between you and me. great to see you. thanks so much. after the break, how the press is covering donald trump versus ron desantis on fund raising, gay rights. it s getting a little ugly.

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