a very nice job. it kind of showed that. it was bringing everybody together. that s what he wants. that s the legacy he is looking for. wes, thank you for being with us, for helping us to remember and honor your friend, john mccain. thank you. we are moments away from another powerful celebration of aretha franklin s amazing life and legacy. one last grand show for the queen of soul. an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don t. it helps block six key inflammatory substances. most pills block one. flonase sensimist.
to your point, john, things that were said on the tape, when the times broke the news it was described as very narrow cast, just about this one woman, karen mcdougal. as we mentioned, maggie is in transit on her way to the space station. when she gets there, send us a text so we know you made it safely. that s where i ll do my next live hit, from mars. wouldn t surprise us, maggie. thanks for sharing your reporting. have a great weekend. you, too. late senator and war hero john mccain has returned to washington for the final time. he will lie in state at the capitol rotunda. joe biden honored his friend yesterday and suzanne malveaux is live in our nation s capital. that was as always as often with joe biden, quite emotional. absolute ly.
trump refused to answer, ana. boris, sanchez at the white house. thank you. joining us now is senator ron johnson, a republican from wisconsin, he s the chairman of the homeland security and government affairs committee and a member of the senate foreign relations committee. senator johnson, thank you for joining us. our condolences for the loss of your colleague. i know it s a somber day for everyone in washington so let s start our conversation talking about senator mccain. he served as a senator for more than 30 years. he called it the most important job i have had in my life. what do you see as his defining mark on that governing body? good morning. john was a larger-than-life figure and if there is one word that symbolizes john, in the end it was healing. he was a feisty guy. you could get in an argument with him pretty fast but he was one of the first people to stand up and say okay, let s figure out how we can come together and
from the u.s. senate. while the military may have been in his dna literally, i think his heart was in the u.s. senate. i think the senate is where he found the greatest joy in his life. that that s well said. he not only loved the senate and its institutions but he was able to get a lot of things done through the united states senate. john was the architect of our bigger, stronger, more efficient military that you re seeing that s now necessary in the world and he did that through the senate arms services committee on a bipartisan basis just as vice president biden said yesterday, it s still possible to work civilly and to work in a bipartisan way to get things done in the u.s. senate and mccain is proof of that. you knew him for some 40 years. a long time to know someone. how did he change over those decades? he never changed. he got more experienced and maybe wiser, the basic
i was his debate coach and believe me that was a tough job. talk to me about that. well, john knew his positions on scores of issues and he could express it, but not in 30 seconds. and a debate you have rules, 30-second bites, 60-second bites or responses and getting him to craft 30-second answers was hard because he knew what he was talking about and it took him longer than 30 or 60 seconds to say it. every political adviser has at least one thing they would like to or wish they could have changed about their candidate most off in an endearing way. i m wondering if there was any one frustrating thing that you had over the course of your and his career where you would have said if you could just do it my way. not really with john because having known him for 40 years i knew what hi stood for and knew you could not change him. you could not change his honesty and authenticity. but the thing with mccain is he