up to authority. you have to be willing to lose friends and to be you have to be willing there s going to be government pressure against you. that s a larger anxiety. because they control the paychecks. i was so proud to be here for the years that cnn and i m talking of only the past, i don t know what will happen in the future. so proud to be here when cnn was setting up so strongly. not because they were standing up to trump s threats but standing up to a government threatening the press. regardless of political party, the press has to stand up to that pressure. so i want to give you the final word. of course we have to stand up to that kind of pressure. we have to recognize that s becoming increasingly difficult. if you think about the pressure for people like the no bell laureate, who was subjected to constant harassment, that is a real challenge especially for female journalists to deal with and is unacceptable.
that. they re not all working for cnn or fox news. there are journalists in the local communities reporting on local issues. think about the boston globe exposing the issue in the catholic church. think about local journalists covering the tornadoes last year in kentucky. those are not journalists who are out of touch, as is presented by the likes of trump, with the people. those are the people. they re inside their communities reporting on issues that are important to their local communities, and often those are the people who are most targeted. when we look at the journalists being attacked worldwide, being killed, most off they are local journalists. it s important for people to understand. what we have seen is black slisl backsiding in democratic countries, leaders trying to turn the public against the press. what are you thinking about in your newsroom, how are you trying to counter these threats?
journalists who could be working elsewhere, not people minimum wage where they can t afford to live because they take young people and as soon as they join the guild and make enough money, they get rid of them and they get other people who are cheaper in there. when you take that away, the so-called public servants, the politicians, will just run wild. at the state capitols, at city hall, and i ve seen it in maryland and baltimore, and it kills me, because i live in baltimore. that s why we need these outlets. the nationals and the locals to remain strong and healthy. what we can do as subscribers is support your local news outlets. let s talk about the next 30 years. this program, we should run some of the great interviews. glenn beck once watched off the show on live tv. but as we think about the next 30 years, let s talk about cnn first. what do you what do you see as the future of cnn?
go online and say give us facts. no, this is a larger thing. we also set the parameters of what of the civic conversation of american life. that s what you also do on this show. my hope for cnn, just as i said local news is pretty much gone and you have these big papers, the times, the post, the wall street journal, a few others. it s the same thing on tv news. local tv news is not very good in a lot of cities. i don t think it s very good in baltimore. except my wife s show. new york is different. tv news has been hollowed out. and so my hope for cnn, more than ever, this is the most important cable channel, i think, right now, to set a standard for journalism, brian. i pray to god they do it. my old mentor david carr would say, it s getting nice sp
donald trump is a serial liar, as i once called him on the air, and i said to myself, i hope that doesn t sound pejorative, because that s what most republicans in the senate in the united states regard him as. so we have to do explaining what we do and how we do it, and the bottom line has to be the best attainable version of the truth, a and the truth is not neutral. ask yourself, is a lynching neutral? i ve covered those kinds of stories. it s not neutral. it s not neutral. i didn t know if the former president s name was going to come up so early in the hour, but it s appropriate, because i think about my tenure here at cnn. he s the story. he s been the story. he s been the defining story for the last decade, for better or worse. when we think about the media s response to trump, maybe we got