e eer eerie. his answers are so comprehensible, so comprehensive. it s like i ve been thinking about this for a long time, chris. here is my answer. you actually hit it on the nail on the head. when i talked to different voters and different donor, they say we thought that beto had it, but beto speaks in sound bites. pete has thought of these issues and has nuance and he connects. it s almost very personal to him. what happened we re talking about buttigieg, but what happened to beto last night? it sounded like newspaper critics criticize any lead that is not a lead. you re supposed to lead with a lead. it s 10:00 tonight. or some declaration of statement, but he always leads with an anecdote. that s an answer every time that. is a critique that you hear from folks. we actually want substance. i slightly joke that beto was the very first instagram president potential, and all of the sudden alexandria
ocasio-cortez came in. he has been able to meet that. but the difference between her and beto is there is substance whether you like her substance or not, there is substance behind. will buttigieg get in the race tonight? he is number five. will he get in there? he is going to get in the mix for sure. thank you. back to you, brian. we got the answer. he is going to be in the mix, top five. okay. we ll hold you all too it. chris matthews and two of our other friends. the topic we want to get to is the oh by the way in our parallel universe this week. so we talked about this at 4:00. senators gillibrand and harris are leading voices in the democratic party for a lot of reasons, but one of them is their defense and their role in the me too movement, and their defense of women who have accused donald trump of sexual assault. i think we re up to 15. there is today corroboration in the new york times from witnesses of e. jean carol s account of being raped by donald trump in a