photographers. critics say those were all civilians. the military claims, shep, those were armed insurgents. shepard: who is assange, trace? julia assange 39 years old. known computer hacker. he, of course, is the founder of wiki leak. he has no home. lives out of a backpack and communicates using a laptop computer. because he lives in the shadows he is dubbed the international man of mystery. that man makes very few public appearances but is he supposed to make one tonight at an investigative journalist conference in las vegas. we called the conference, we emailed the conference, they have not responded but if assange shows up tonight, it s a good bet the feds will also be there, shep. shepard: what s the goal here, trace? shut down wiki leaks? what they really isn t have assange to cooperate with him. it would be difficult to shut
bodies and weapons. this is the kind of thing, if you talk to our troops, they were very concerned about these different cieps of insurgents going from town to town, moving with weapons in vehicles like this. that s one of the concerns the army had. they think this was justified, megyn. megyn: trace, there was also controversy with respect to that van, and the presence of two children in it. what do we know about it? reporter: we know that two children were wounded inside there, and as soon as the troops on the ground found out those children were in there, they rushed them to a hospital. wikileaks said they sent them to a different hospital where they maybe didn t get the best care, the u.s. army says that s preposterous, they say they sent them to the closest hospital to get them the best care. two children were wounded in that, wikileaks said 25 people were killed in these two incidents, the u.s. army says 11 were killed, acknowledging that the two reuters photographers were among
see right there, we re going to freeze it on the same thing, you can see that he s carrying a long weapon. the army says that weapon runs about half the length of his body, and that is an rpg, which is a rocket-propelled grenade launcher. that s what the iraqis were using to go after our helicopters. now, wikileak said the reason they didn t highlight the weapons is because they weren t sure if they were really weapons, but our soldiers who were fighting this on the ground were certainly sure. listen to this. it s an rpg. got a guy with an rpg. want to fire? we re coming around. it s an rpg, getting ready to fire. reporter: after this shooting the army subsequently investigated this, they found that in fact these men were carrying three rpgs, as well as a number of ak-47s. they also say that the men in this video fit the age and the weapons description
ludicrous to allege we have taken this county of out of context in any way. we re going to let you decide that. this is video taken from an army helicopter in 2007, in july, in new baghdad. you can see there the wiki leak has slowed the video down and have identified two of the photographers who were actually killed from reuters, saying they had cameras on them. what they did not do is identify any of those people who actually had weapons on them. these are men, walking in a courtyard in baghdad. now i want to go to the next tape because right behind the photographers, you see those four men, those are the photographers, again, there are four men walking right behind those two photographers there, and you re going to see at the upper edge of the screen, on the lefthand side, there it is right there, watch him, this guy is going to swing out, there it is, we froze it for you, swing out, what the army says is an ak-47 rifle. the man standing right next to him on the left, you re going
of men that had been fighting, forces that had been fighting our troops all day long, megyn. megyn: and the controversy in part is because this wikileaks which editorrizes about the tapes says that the video clearly shows the unprovoked slag of a wounded reuters employee and his rescuers and there s no question the two reuters photographers were killed in connection with this attack. there is a question whether whether or not it was an unprovoked slag that was indiscriminate as this website talks about or whether it was a good faith effort to take out isn ts by our troops. trace, there is also controversy about a van in the video. tell us about that. reporter: i m going to show you video and let you look at this as well, wiki this is an unprovoked attack, this is a van that pulls up to take away the wounded. what the army is saying here is that this van is not marked. their contention is that this is not marked, there is nothing on there that would show that this is a protected vehic