we ve seen for decades that congress isn t able to move on immigration reform even in light of these humanitarian disasters. i don t see any will on the hill to address this. we could end up debating this for weeks if not months to come. katty kay, you heard the president not, red meat crowd, top of minnesota talking about almost a glancing mention of how we signed the executive order today but the border is going to be just as tough as ever. talk about the dueling trumps, if you will. i m not sure there really are dueling trumps. i think the president was dragged into having to reverse himself on this very one issue of separating parents from their children when they cross into the country. but when you listen to him throughout the course of the day, his gut is still hard line on this. when he talked about not wanting to be weak, wanting to be strong, actually, i would like to be strong even if that s unpalatable to people. that s where the president is. it s just that he had so m
for the separation. so far, sessions and the justice department have not responded to the complaint. demanding action. republicans and democrats in congress are calling on jeff sessions to put an immediate stop to what the white house calls inhumane and unamerican separation of families at the border so they can work on a legislative fix. i ll ask chris van hollen if he has signed on to the letter. and at expedia, we don t think you should be rushed into booking one. that s why we created expedia s add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia. billions of problems. sore gums? bleeding gums? painful flossing?
we don t. reporter: so where does that leave not yet. i think it will show up sooner or later, if we keep it up. reporter: it s a very political debate in our country. no doubt about that. reporter: do you believe that donald trump is still getting pressure from the republican party, his own party here, that this will stand? i think he s getting pressure from all sides. reporter: understandably? well, i understand the big push for separation of the children from their mothers. that has got to be a real that s a big point. and that s so important. but still, we have to stay with the laws of our land. and if the laws aren t right, congress change them. reporter: stephanie, you told me as many people might wonder if this is just heartless, explain to me on your property you have a large piece of property. we re six miles from a
consensus that he had violated the tenets of the church, whats to him as a member of the congress immigration? the hopeful outcome is that he and his pastors and church leaders have a conversation. the term often used is just resolution. they come to an agreement about things he can do to address the concerns raised and that he not only stops doing those things but he works to undo the harm he s caused. hopefully then we move forward with him using the significant social power he has as a lifelong methodist to do good in the world, as opposed to the harm we see happening right now. reverend david wright, thank you so much for calling in today. that brings this hour to a close for me. please remember to catch kasie dc sundays. tonight chris hayes and lawrence o donnell and stephanie rule will be live from texas reporting on the separation of
general jeff sessions. and we re told it should be delivered by the end of the day. for more on this, i m joined by maryland senator chris van hollen, who just visited a detention center down in texas. senator, i want to, first of all, get your reaction to this letter. i also was just speaking with an aide, a top democratic aide about what mitch mcconnell had to say earlier today, saying the republican congress does not want this to continue and they want to work with democrats to try to pass something to fix the problem. but this aide told me that, quote, we have zero faith that this could go anywhere, that legislation is a path to a dead end. it s a snake pit and that it s just further indication of the president potentially using a group of vulnerable people as hostages. this aide referenced the dreamers as well. do you agree with that assessment and is this the direction you want your leaders