now, debate her policy all you want, and i think it should be debated, as you do, i m sure, especially for someone who s running for president, but she certainly seemed prepared for the answers. and she did not hesitate when asked about the border wall. she said, no, no money for a border wall. when asked about health care, she said, i think everyone should be entitled to health care in this country. medicare, medicaid, same thing. she was very direct and emphatic in her responses. yeah. look, she s a very competent politician. she was a good prosecutor. she made history as the ag in the state of california. i ve interviewed her. she s quick on her feet. she s got a lot of skills. we have to see, though, you know it s early. well, of course, it s early. but it s never early anymore. it s like this stuff never ends. but it s that s not what determines the outcome. because there are going to be a lot of other people who check those same boxes. and it s going to be about opportu
if anyone is out there, look up dunning/krueger effect. and it explains a whole lot of what s happening in our culture right now. confidence versus competence. and i don t even know if it s confidence. i just think it s sort of delusion in a sense. now, changing stories, mayor gillum, great interview. what do you think of that guy? i think he s a great get for cnn, because he is a big deal for that party in the future. he represents a lot of what they need. and he s going to be a good, honest broker of problems that they re going to have figuring out which way they want to go with big policy questions. this health care thing is a big thing. mm-hmm. you ve got health insurance and then you ve got health care. i understand there s a difference. but they have to figure out what they want to present to the american people in terms of how far they want to go with making public care and cost and what kamala harris put out last
night, i agree with andrew gillum, it was ambitious. and she s putting out ideas. let s see other people put out ideas instead of just hating on hers. fine. but it was really out there, don. it s a very, very controversial step. yeah, it is. and we didn t get a chance to talk about it last night, because there was you know, there was the thing happened between us. between our shows, the town hall. listen, i think that i m not talking about politically. people can assess what they think of her politically, right, what they think about her. it was refreshing to see someone who is able to string a sentence together, to keep a train of thought. miami being honest. to actually know from which she was speaking of. and to just have knowledge of a subject without just spinning in circles about, well, if i do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, okay, well, what s your plan? well, i m going to tell you, i m just going to hire the best people. that part was really refreshing.
women are tied up, they re bound. they have women in the backseat of the cars with duct taped all over the place. reporter: the president claims that women are driven across the border and sold. those who work say duct tape isn t a thing. we have a database of 1,435 indictments and went through all of the indictments and found 26 cases that involved kidnapping. we did a search on duct tape and we found one case of 1,435 cases that mentioned duct tape. reporter: and that case was an american, not a migrant. in looking at all federal trafficking cases, most victims are u.s. citizens. only about a third of trafficking cases are foreign nationals and the vast majority of them enter the u.s. with legal visas. no duct tape. what donald trump is missing with this sort of fictional account hollywood version of hollywood trafficking is the dire cases that do exist in the united states, including cases
you know, the way you want to identify, that s up to you. it s obviously your choice. but people judge you. they put you in a category. so if you look black, they re going to think you re black. that s not that s not here s the thing. when people say identify, meaning, does she or one who is running a person of color, do they identify with as being african-american. being african-american is different than being black. you can be black and cuban. you can be black and caribbean. you can be black and dominic dominican you can be black and south africa or east africa. but they re not different census categories. but the experience is different as an african-american, someone whose culture and experiences are born out of the american slave trade and out of jim crow is different than someone whose ancestors weren t and who didn t have those experiences. i think that s what people mean by that. it s not saying, i don t identify as a person of color. i think, if people ask, wh