other saying similar things in different ways. yeah. martha: you and i spoke a while ago about the president. we saw him today at cpac. we talked about how he could expand his voter tent back at that time in august. and here is something that you said about that. >what do you think is the biggest group that he need continue to influence? who does he need to pull over? he does not need to speak to the never trumpers. some of my friends or maybe former friends who suffer from terrible case of moral superiority and put their own vanity and tastes above the interest of the country. martha: guess who came to the white house today, bill, who see president trump, john kasich who once said, you know, it s on him how he does in the country. and know if you are going to insult hispanics and turn off minorities, you are going to have a reckless on foreign policy that s not good and then here is he today at the white house. the man is the president of the united states. it s sort of like
pope benedict. theologically, they adhere to the same views as john paul ii and benedict, in terms of the hierarchy of the church. they re not really, most of them, for any kind of break with the past. and yet, there have been popes who see, through whatever means of prayer, contemplation, tradition, whatever, that their job is to move the church in a different direction, and that s why i m suggesting that john xxiii, with his call for vatican ii and ecumenical council, to look and re-evaluate the role of the church and particular the hierarchy, women, sexual questions in the modern world, this might be on the agenda of the next pope. carl bernstein, it is good to talk to you, even from afar. thank you so much for being with us. you re in a beautiful spot. it is, indeed. also making news this morning, nbc news has now
all coming through there. he s fighting for more regulation as opposed to fighting for people who work hard and play by the rules. i hate to do this, because i m pandering to you, my friend, dee dee, what would bill do? he would have started a long time ago addressing the issues that people are mad about. feeling their pain. talking about the lives of ordinary americans who can t pay their mortgage, who have lost their jobs, who someone in their family has lost their jobs, who can t pay their kids college tuition. who see, while all this is happening, wall street bankers are getting huge bonuses. but it s got to come back to the actual people whose lives are affected by this. you can t talk about let me give you a horrible example of history. when mike dukakis was asked by bernard what s his last name? shaw. bernie shaw, he was asked, what would happen if your wife were raped and killed? and he gave that classic liberal answer from massachusetts liberal politics, which
have a consumer watchdog that is preventing abusive practices by the financial sector. so he s giving a bureaucratic response to an emotional crowd. he s saying, i m going to name another box on the federal organizational chart. if he s got a fire in the belly, he s been taking a lot of antiacid, because it s not at all coming through there. he s fighting for more regulation as opposed to fighting for people who work hard and play by the rules. i hate to do this, because i m pandering to you, my friend, dee dee, what would bill do? he would have started a long time ago addressing the issues that people are mad about. feeling their pain. talking about the lives of ordinary americans who can t pay their mortgage, who have lost their jobs, who someone in their family has lost their jobs, who can t pay their kids college tuition. who see, while all this is happening, wall street bankers are getting huge bonuses. but it s got to come back to the actual people whose lives are affe
organizational chart. if he s got a fire in the belly, he s been taking a lot of antiacid, because it s not at all coming through there. he s fighting for more regulation as opposed to fighting for people who work hard and play by the rules. i hate to do this, because i m pandering to you, my friend, dee dee, what would bill do? he would have started a long time ago addressing the issues that people are mad about. feeling their pain. talking about the lives of ordinary americans who can t pay their mortgage, who have lost their jobs, who someone in their family has lost their jobs, who can t pay their kids college tuition. who see, while all this is happening, wall street bankers are getting huge bonuses. but it s got to come back to the actual people whose lives are affected by this. you can t talk about let me give you a horrible example of history. when mike dukakis was asked by bernard what s his last name? shaw. bernie shaw, he was asked, what would happen if yo