ability framework. so we know cyberspace creates an escalation. president biden said they have designated 16 installations, critical infrastructure strikes, that are off bounds in the cyber domain. because what they re trying to avoid is some attack on critical infrastructure that s misunderstood and that rapidly escalates into a more kinetic conflict. i don t think we re at the ransomware, i don t think we re ready to take that on, but we can discuss cyber under this umbrella and an agreement not to attack the commander controls. president biden making the rules of the road, and through that dialogue, i think we ll start to get to these cyber issues which hopefully can turn to something more. the other important thing, though, the most interesting thing at the end is when his back was raised about, are you going to change putin s calculus? we re not going to change their
helsinki. they clearly said human rights is not of international relevance. we ve seen both parties frankly completely ignore these issues, i guess, to find something with putin on the stage. this approach is also very impractical, because external aggression and internal aggression are the same point. those american presidents who have decided to ignore these domestic human rights abuses george w. bush looked into putin s eyes and saw his soul, obama tried to invite putin to the g.a. it s really important that president biden made it clear both here before going to geneva and his meeting with putin today that human rights is essential to this meeting. this is really, really important. we should remind folks, for
tow the toe the line, and we re going to measure this over the next three months, six months, there is going to be consequences. and i think putin understands that. one of the virtues which biden did today, he talked about foreign policy like a regular guy, like that interesting guy at the bar who is kind of much smarter than you thought he was, you know, and there s nothing mystical or recognized about foreign policy, it s just about people acting in their mutual self-interest. i think the american people will listen to that and go, yeah, that s right. so, geoff bennet, we were talking before the press conference about the allies he was speaking with adversaries, but also the audience here, that russia and china are very much a part of a political conversation. what did you hear from the president that may end up as
that way. then when we went to nato, i think it was the same thing. we had really good meetings there as well as the eu. i didn t get one single person, not one of the world leaders said to any of them, thank you for arranging a meeting with putin. and i thought that i was in a much better position to represent the west after the first few meetings with putin knowing the rest of the world was behind us. i owe them all a debt of gratitude. mr. president, since you re heading home, can i ask you about domestic issues? if i can answer them. the first is the fate of the infrastructure bill. there is a new offer. have you had time to see it? i haven t seen it. i honestly haven t seen it. i don t know what the details are. i know that my chief of staff thinks there s some room, that
prevents the risk of some kind of a nuclear threat or worse. that s one way of answering, because the issue with setting out all of the points that he made to president putin and saying, i believe that president putin listened to me, and we ll see what happens in the years a ahead, we could say we know what s in the years ahead, that putin fails to negotiate. in the years gone by, his pattern is to threaten, to deny, to negotiate it all and then use that leverage to build his position on the world stage. the other thing biden was saying was that president putin s reputation is damaged, and i m not sure president putin sees it