himself, and his own personal team are at odds with how to comply with drek tifs and other obligations. and that s surprising because it alludes to the fact that the president of the united states may in fact be one of the people who is the target of an investigation, because he is trying to withhold perhaps information that is necessary in the investigation. and that should speak volumes to a lot of people. now, it s inconclusive whether or not that s in fact what s happening and what these documents are, but what it s showing to you is this level of hubris that s between the president s personal counsel that seems to think that they are above reproach and certainly above having to even hand over documents to the special counsel or anybody else. mark, i mean, it s stunning. when you and i see each other in the building and we re having a kfrpgs, we kind of go we kind of look over our shoulder even in a secure building like the cnn center. i mean, to imagine or the time warner cent
to go through different rabbit holes with the cobb sent of his authority. but the issue here more specifically is whether or not what they re pursuing in terms of manafort is leading concluding whether there s a criminal probe that is justice department about the russia collusion investigation and to that we don t have the answer. what we do have is further evidence that manafort is somebody who is a key piece of the puzzle and he has a lot of different pressures on him right now, including a possible indictment that could lead to him cooperating with the special counsel mueller and his team, which will iner to the benefit of the justice department, but not the president of the united states if he s involved. we have a lot to talk about, every one. so stay with me. when we come back, more bad news for the president. two trump lawyers spilling the beans about the russia investigation at a popular d.c. stake house, overheard by a reporter for the new york times. talk about loose li
about colleagues, you know, in a congressional office documents, legal documents hidden in a safe that s part of a very crucial investigation. correct. so what does mueller do now, rick santorum? well, obviously, you know, that s another piece of evidence that s out there that leads him down another rabbit hole, whether that rabbit hole has a rabbit in it or not, i don t know, but whether there s, you know, some sort of obstruction as a result of this claim, i don t know. it just i mean, let s just put it this way, the president is not being well served. that s all i would say. i think what he does he wants to seek the documents. we can all agree that s what he s going to do next, correct. absolutely. okay. so listen, the new york times is reporting that some white house officials are concerned that colleagues might be wearing wires to record conversations for mueller. i mean, this goes far beyond parls intrigue, doesn t is it, susan. absolutely. it would be unprecede
overheard chatting at a washington stake house by a new york times reporter. the president s legal team is clashing on how much to cooperate with special counsel mueller. can you believe this, an open conversation right next for the times washington bureau? all right. so it is shocking. and there s sort of two parts to it. with unis the substance of the conversation they were having. in any investigations vofg the president there s going to be questions about the scope of executive privilege. there s going to be potentially disagreements about how much you might want to cooperate with investigators versus wanting to assert that privilege. so the fact that there were some clashes, that s not necessarily so significant. what is incredibly significant is, one, that these lawyers saw fit to have this conversation sort of in public in the first place. i mean, it really is shockingly bad john mccain. the second is that it appears that the sort of the conflicts here aren t just about whethe
if there was, what does that mean? in addition to president trump, who else was paul manafort speaking to. i m sure there s a lot of people out there tonight wondering if they re caught on those tapes. absolutely. the fbi restarted surveillance after getting a new feesa warrant. getting one is not easy to do. what does that tell you at the investigation. at the outs it means the government was able to prove to a judge that they had probable cause that paul manafort was the agent of a foreign power. the definition can encompass a lot of different activities, but typically it does indicate there s some evidence here of there being criminal wrongdoing. so considering the surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, it means when they got the fisa warrant again, they must have learned something new, right, something that would that rises to that level that you just started.