john: you know, chad you talked about a couple of nightmare scenarios in the amount of time it might take to get this done. but is there a potential nightmare scenario for the republicans here? people voting for the president and instead of voting for a candidate and potential attrition that the democrats actually get to the magic number and the republicans don t? you come in that case you would have to have people who are away and you would have to say people vote present in the democrats come in at 212. this will be the math at some point year. so, if that number 212 is more than half of what the whole house of representatives is in the democrats all stick together and you don t have attrition there there is a coalition that forms from democrats, republicans and this goes on for several days. you could certainly see hakeem jeffries getting the vote. that is unlikely to happen. but this is where you talk to some of the more moderate republicans, they say if not kevin mccarthy, it
amount that would show up against mccarthy here, but that number is clearly bigger than she and many were anticipating heading into this vote today, chad. that is why it will be interesting to see how kevin mccarthy after the first vote if you take two or three votes start to get the same result later tonight, tomorrow or show up on friday morning and it is the same thing. again, you are not living the envelope to some degree. does kevin mccarthy drop out? he knew he did not have the votes in the fall of 2015 after john boehner stepped aside. and just before the conference was supposed to nominate him, he and his chief of staff and others, there was meeting and john boehner said, i don t have the votes and i will drop out. it was a big shock to everyone in capitol hill. kevin mccarthy and everybody has put on a good face. i asked him if he was going to drop out and he said no.
former president trump for speaker. we heard that talk a year and a half ago but i tell you if kevin mccarthy doesn t have the vote for the speaker, donald trump doesn t have the vote for speaker. jordan and the two names during the hallway is tom cole republican of oklahoma and patrick mchenry in line to be the chair of the financial services committee is the republican from north carolina. but again, you have to go through a lot of votes and break a lot of furniture and glassware in the u.s. capital before you get to that. maybe steve scalise can get to the magic number. again, it doesn t have to be to a team. we elected three speakers newt gingrich, john boehner and also nancy pelosi. but fewer than 218 votes but if everybody votes for somebody by name, 434 total number of house right now based on that quorum call it is in fact 218. you might have people get sick and have travel plans and a republican elect on that side of
this is blowing up in a way that he feared and that he anticipated and was not able to work around, unfortunately, for him. she is absolutely right, no one worked harder through the midterm cycle throughout that year. he went out to long island and met with jewish leadership in districts he thought would potentially swing. republican and they got up big wins places like new york. john: the state of arizona. absolutely. you cannot fault his efforts in this fight. but he seems to be coming up short at least in the first round. we hear the conversations around between people patrick mchenry and bishop from north carolina come up with the bishop has been a no vote. obviously, mchenry is an ally of mccarthy and they are trying to bring him over the finish line. they will go one by one with the individual to see if they can make this happen in the next round or several pounds after that. sandra: sandra here, this was ronna who joined us first as
saying we won t vote for kevin, there is a lot more people saying it s only got to be kevin. i don t see any movement right now. obviously this will go into multiple votes. but everybody needs to remember, the american people just retired nancy pelosi and elected republicans to lead the house of representatives. and every day we are delaying, we are letting down those voters. this is what we need to be focused on the voters and the people who just retired nancy pelosi and put republicans in charge. john: so ronna, the fact the vote is going the way it is would seem to be an indication that this is not about for somebody else. this is a vote against mccarthy. and that if mccarthy were to continue to stay in the race, he will never make it to speaker. you know, chad pergram was talking about going back to examples of 1849 and 1856 to describe where we are in 2023. is there a potential consistent