point. robert, thank you very much for all of that. thanks for having me. coming up, president trump is set to meet with the ukrainian president tomorrow. so just who is vladimir zelinsky? that story after this. zelinsky that story after this. if they re talking about you. you must be doing something right. experience the style, craftsmanship, and technology that have made the rx the leading luxury suv of all time. lease the 2019 rx 350 for $399 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. panera s new warm grain full of flavor, color,. full of- woo! full of good. so you can be too. try our new warm grain bowls today. panera. food as it should be. should always be working harder. that s why your cash automatically goes into a money market fund
steadfastedly defending the decision to not pressure the president to bring forward the whistle-blower complaint, so privately a lot of senate republicans who are close allies of the president were telling me they thought it was justified to keep the whistle-blower complaint out the hands of congress. so it was interesting to me there was a pivot at some point today. there was a pivot by leadership and that clearly was not because there was a unanimity amongst senate republicans in making that recommendation. it may simply because they didn t want to make senators who were up for re-election in to20 answer for their caucus participation in a cover up. maybe because it s they know what s in that whistle-blower complaint and they did want want to be seen as trying to keep it from congress. clearly there was a change in strategy at some point today by senate republicans. thank you, chris murphy, for being here for that. the trump whistle-blower speaking to congress, i want to
into doing this like your first few weeks in office seems like a tough thing. ukraine can sit back ukraine s agriculture has been going through the roof since the chinese tariffs went out on american wheat. ukraine has been benefitting in some ways from that. but i want to point out also there s no current ambassador from ukraine to the united states, and there s no ambassador from the united states to ucrepe. there s just a temporary charge there. carol, do you think that this stops now? that s my big question, right? these two countries have bilateral relationships but giuliani seems completely unperturbed. seems like he s just going to keep going at it. it s really interesting, and chris, you know, you asked do you think this ends here. i don t think so. i think we re only going to learn more and more every day and including tomorrow. i mean, the president said this afternoon from new york he s declassifying the call that he made in july 25th because he said it was a perfect
president who said yes, i did have that call and i did in fact ask him to investigate. we talked about the bidens and also you don t want to send money to these people. and by the way, i did it the day after robert mueller s testimony. oh, and by the way, rudy giuliani, as we know in press accounts, constantly trying to get this jumpstarted. so he had no there was no question that the only strategy here was to be as transparent as was expedient. there is new reporting tonight from the washington post about rudy giuliani s free lance or not free lance foreign policy with ukraine. the big question to me, brian, now are sort of what s the content of the whistleblower complaint and the whistleblower s testimony and if congress can get it and then how quickly this moves, because i can imagine two worlds. i can imagine a world of sort of the momentum keeps going and there is widespread consensus among democrats that this itself, this one violation is a
perspective. he s been promising to do for a while which barack obama never did, so come over to ukraine and figure this out. somebody needs to come over there and actually understand why it s important to fund the $140 million, that s the important part. carol, you ve done a lot of reporting on this. 1 thing i think is interesting is the role giuliani has played and the state department in all of this. there s a little question in my mind and i wonder you can clarify what you know about the role the state department has been. giuliani basically said i wept over there because the state department called me and wanted to. there s something really strange about the official challenge of the u.s. foreign relations setting up a meeting with the personal attorney. i think the time line is really interesting. everyone is really focused on the president s call with zelinsky and on july 25th when he admitted today he asked him multiple times to open this