for some number of years now. nobody was with the officer driving the van, right? he was alone? that s correct. did another officer meet him at any one of those stops? there were reports that one or two may have. well when they pulled over the first time to put the leg irons, there was obviously more individuals there to help place him in the restraints. and then there was also another officer that did meet him at that second stop. one of the officers that is suspended right now as well. and then obviously there was the officers that had to help the third person arrested. so there was an officer at every stop. and did any of them ever enter the van to your knowledge? i m not sure about that. do you know if the second prisoner was seat belted in? i m not sure about that to be honest. how did they describe the condition of freddie gray when they saw him at the police
yesterday, the van had stopped a few times but they didn t disclose the second time. they saw that freddie gray was alert and talking on that second stop but why would he not have disclosed that? many have found that suspicious. i don t think that s something he didn t disclose. from the day that the incident happened he told me that i m sure he disclosed it to the department. i m guessing it s just something that they didn t release until now. was there any altercation at all between the driver of the van or any other officer and freddie gray on any of the stops according to the cops? according to what i m told absolutely not. no. so when they saw him on all these stops, was he injured? was it just a shock to open up at the police station and see that he was catastrophically
what is the race of the six officers involved in this case? it s actually a mix of white and black officers. so it s not all white? that s correct. do you know whether anybody has taken that into consideration? i mean in so many of these cases, it s been a white officer and a black defendant, and we ve been told that s the problem that these police forces are too white and they re too trigger happy when they re going after black defendants. that s just something that they re going to say because, you know they can never admit that you know it was their doing that got them arrested. they can never take responsibility for their actions. it s always going to be a race game. and you know what the baltimore police department is an extremely diverse department all the way from the officers all the way up to the command staff, it s an extremely diverse department. so i that s something that we
station, when he-the-realizethey realized he had been hurt? apparently when they got to the police station and they opened up the door, they saw him laying on the ground. they are calling his name trying to see whether he was just playing or what was up. at some point an officer entered the back of the wagon to see why he wasn t responding which is when they found out he was unresponsive. hmm. did they describe their reaction at that moment? that s when they immediately called for an ambulance and they were just shocked that something could happen like this. what are they going through now? you know they re a great group of officers and, you know they have hearts of gold and the
supposed to put the seat belt on. but for the most part if they re compliant, the seat belt s going on them because there s really no i mean there s always a potential danger for the officer but the officer has a little bit more comfort being inside the back of the wagon to put the seat belt on. so those officers maintain that when freddie gray went into that van, he was walking of his own accord? because i understand that there s been a leaked medical examiner s report that suggests freddie gray s injury that led to his death occurred inside the van. that was the conclusion we ve heard so far at least from the medical examiner. some people on the streets of baltimore have rejected that based on the limited snippets of videotape they ve seen where he wasn t getting into the van. we ve seen videotape where he