going to end up with arnold schwarzenegger snapping you like a pencil. the other thing to remember, many of the new planes don t even have a recline. the new seats are supposedly thinner and they re more ergonomically designed so that you get more leg room. it s known as the pitch between here and there of the seat in front. but they don t recline. in europe, for example, the easy jets, the whiz airs, they have taken out things like bathrooms and put for seats in, but they do not recline. so you can look for that little button to your heart s content in some planes, it s not there. but, you know, for the planes here state side, richard, most of them still recline. there s just a few seats that don t near the exits. people are actually coming up with recline blockers to stop people from leaning back. do you think that s fair? i don t think look, if somebody does something with their seat, they can do whatever they like. but the moment the simple rule on any plane, and i don t