there that is politically embarrassing to him. i think we have every reason to believe he will do just that. jeremy, you ve traditionally had some on-point reporting about mr. bannon. what s up with mr. bannon in light of both house intel and the mueller investigation? brian, what i think is going to end up happening is what happened the last time steve bannon was asked to testify before the house intelligence committee. he will stonewall. he will stonewall because his approach to the committee is wholly consistent with the white house s approach, which is let s not give them too much information. this investigation is not as serious or as legitimate as the mueller investigation, so, therefore, we will cooperate fully or at least much in a much more cooperative way with with the mueller investigation because they want to appear as if they have nothing to hide. so steve bannon will sit down with mueller, he will speak to him, he will answer questions.
discredit this russia investigation. as we mentioned, president trump met today with the man overseeing the investigation about the controversial house intelligence committee dueling memos. chief of staff john kelly addressed the president s meeting with rod rosenstein earlier today. had a great conversation, help the president understand the differences between the first memo, second memo. are you leaning toward releasing it? no, i would say, this is a different memo than the first one. it s lengthier. it s different. so not leaning toward it, it will be done in a responsible way. but at the end of it all, it will be guys like rod rosenstein, chris wray from fbi, certainly the national security attorneys at the white house given the president s recommendation on it. remains to be seen if all that will hold, if those recommendations will effect the outcome. doj and fbi, you ll recall,
to conduct the grand jury questioning of president bill clinton. we welcome to the broadcast, mimi roka, former attorney for the southern district of new york. currently a distinguished fellow and criminal justice at the pace university school of law. sol, because these are two such different characters and very different men, is there any constant that is transferable, a standard that would apply to the questioning of one, and ergo, to the other? well, for any investigation like this and any questioning like this, you obviously want to be totally prepared. and mueller s got a great experienced, brilliant crew with him. the most important thing i think that assuming this questioning takes place, either informally or at the grand jury, let s say it happens informally, most important thing is to not have time constraint on it. to make it clear there s not going be a time limitation on the questioning. that s number one. number two, is to serve notice
edited out, covered up, redacted and make it seem like it s a tougher job for the white house, make it seem like it faced scrutiny the gop memo did not. yeah, i think that s a fair point to make, brian. there s a little bit of irony in the white house and republicans who champion the first memo, saying, giving deaf rane ining justice department, intelligence committee, whether to release the memo given you released the first memos you just pointed out, over the extraordinarily pub lulic and firm objections f the fbi and justice department saying releasing the first memo would be extremely reckless. it is pretty clear trump is in a difficult situation right now. does he release a memo that we can fully expect undermines his argument and his argument is simple, that the fbi was politically motivated in starting the russia investigation, this gop mem h
position was subpoenaed, you would invoke your fifth amendment right. the real question here is, can the president pull it off? can the president go in front of the american people, if he decides to invoke the fifth amendment, and say, look, here s why i m doing it. the supreme court has said the fifth amendment protects the innocent as well as the guilty. i ve said from the beginning this is an unfair witch hunt of an investigation. and i m not going to subject myself to it. okay. anyone can pull that off, donald trump can. well done, counselor. mimi, by way of welcoming you to the broadcast, what i m going to do is play something that happened in this room on this network today. nicolle wallace had a couple journalists with her on the show. asked them all about tips for interviewing donald trump. we ll talk about it on the other side. in terms of talking to the president, he s a very, very difficult person to interrupt. he likes to talk. he goes on and on. he talks about a lo