election that changed everything for american women. and joshua green, national correspondent for bloomberg businessweek. in 2007, he wrote a piece about hillary clinton for gq that ended up being spiked from the magazine as it was printing a cover story about bill clinton. alec, i want to come back to you quickly, because it s interesting to me, and this is what i really want to discuss here. people on the internet are saying, people on twitter are like, this is whitewater 2.0, this is scandal mongering. what s the actual scandal here? like, i guess the question is, there seem to be two plausible stories about the clintons. one is that they involve themselves in shady dealings, they have these hangers-ons who sort of trade on their name for all kinds of unseemingly transactional stuff, doug band one possible story. the other story is they re basically like any other prominent, wealthy, powerful family or figures in america, and our level of scrutiny 100 times higher because they re
alec, i want to come back to you quickly, because it s interesting to me, and this is what i really want to discuss here. people on the internet are saying, people on twitter are like, this is whitewater 2.0, this is scandal mongering. what s the actual scandal here? like, i guess the question is, there seem to be two plausible stories about the clintons. one is that they involve themselves in shady dealings, they have these hangers-ons who sort of trade on their name for all kinds of unseemingly transactional stuff, doug band is an example. that s one possible story. the other story is they re basically like any other prominent, wealthy, powerful family or figures in america, and our level of scrutiny 100 times higher because they re the clintons. persuade me we re talking about the former and not the latter. i think it s the scale. the amount of money we re talking about here is just on a whole different order of magnitude, because i mean, a lot of people sort of, you know, do the
and joshua green, national correspondent for bloomberg businessweek. in 2007, he wrote a piece about hillary clinton for gq that ended up being spiked from the magazine as it was printing a cover story about bill clinton. alec, i want to come back to you quickly, because it s interesting to me, and this is what i really want to discuss here. people on the internet are saying, people on twitter are like, this is whitewater 2.0, this is scandal mongering. what s the actual scandal here? like, i guess the question is, there seem to be two plausible stories about the clintons. one is that they involve themselves in shady dealings, they have these hangers-ons who sort of trade on their name for all kinds of unseemingly transactional stuff, doug band one possible story. the other story is they re basically like any other prominent, wealthy, powerful family or figures in america, and our level of scrutiny 100 times higher because they re the clintons. persuade me we re talking about the for
tries to drudge up whitewater, our image of both clintons on old scandals like that is baked in. but all the stuff in alec s piece is new information. and a lot has transpired in the eight years or however long it s been since clinton left the white house. and with all the attention on clinton and his business cronies and all the kind of chaos that just naturally seems to kind of show up in hillaryland, i think it really could be a problem for her if she decides to run. i couldn t think of something more ironic than for this to blow up and sabotage a hillary clinton campaign. that would give you another book. well, this is why i really raised my eyebrows when i heard she was going to the foundation. there were 46 other things she could have done with the intervening two years, if she wants to run for president. alec, rebecca tracer and josh green from bloomberg business week. thank you all. that is all in for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts now.
public mind as any politicians of our time, right? i mean, the question is how much mallability is there around perceptions of these two individuals? i actually think there is a decent bit. i think that s right in the sense that, you know, if someone tries to drudge up whitewater, our image of both clintons on old scandals like that is baked in. but all the stuff in alec s piece is new information. and a lot has transpired in the eight years or however long it s been since clinton left the white house. and with all the attention on clinton and his business cronies and all the kind of chaos that just naturally seems to kind of show up in hillaryland, i think it really could be a problem for her if she decides to run. i couldn t think of something more ironic than for this to blow up and sabotage a hillary clinton campaign. that would give you another book. well, this is why i really raised my eyebrows when i heard she was going to the foundation. there were 46 other things she cou