special council to look at those kinds of conversations and to determine whether or not they lead to evidence of collusion. close relationships with pro russian elements in neighboring ukraine. cnn could not determine if this new review includes donald trump s tax returns. do you think that it is possible that the feds could get access to the president s taxes actually without his knowledge? i think there is no question at some point. i don t know when that point arrives but that having convened a grand jury and the grand jury has the power to subpoena and the power to get testimony on a number of issues associated with this investigation that at some point the issue of donald trump s tax reports are going to be looked at one way or the
impact the new grand jury? i think it would be a very serious step for the president to take not only in terms of possibly raising further issues related to obstruction of justice similar to the firing of fbi director raise those same issues but in addition to that it is clear that the congress has raised a number of stop signs saying don t do this. if necessary if you take this step we will likely empower the special council to proceed under any event. i don t think it would be a very smart move to do this at this point. i think it would be much better to do what the lawyers said today which is to fully cooperate with this investigation. special council of the president in the white house said investigators at the same time were told they combed through the list of what it
investigators including special counsel mueller to not do the investigation. clearly he is doing the right thing there for his client to at least try to show that they are trying to cooperate. if i was in trouble i would want him representing me and not donald trump. i want you to listen to this because as you know cnn is now reporting federal investigators have seized on donald trump and his associate s financial ties to russia as one of the most fertile avenues potentially for their probe. i want you to listen to the president, his exchange with journalists two weeks ago on his thoughts about robert mueller looking into his finances. looking at your finances unrelated to russia. would that be a breach of what is i would say yes. by the way, i sell a lot of
subpoenas for producing live testimony before the grand jury under oath which are all transcribed. so that s how an investigation is conducted. you get it all under oath. you get it all transcribed. you get the tudocuments and you review them and start questioning people around the transaction. it is not likely to get the top of the food chain at the beginning of the investigation. you work your way up is the normal way to do it. it is not at all surprising that we have reached a phase involving the grand jury. so there are many, many leads for mr. mueller to follow. and one of those, of course, is the intercepts by u.s. government, nsa in particular of russians talking to russians which will give you a road map of who to talk to.
the investigation that needs to be conducted because it s obvious that it has a relationship to the fundamental investigation on the russian issue. cnn s sources are also telling us that investigators became suspicious when they turned up what are described as intercepted communications of russians discussing efforts to work with paul manafort, the former trump campaign chairman to coordinate information that could damage hillary clinton. what could this lead to? well, again, it s pretty obvious that paul manafort had a number of financial relationships both with the russians and other countries in that area. as a result of that he could very well have been subjected to efforts to try to have him influence what happened during the course of the campaign. that has to be fully investigated. so i think it is proper for the