new developments in the russia investigation after special counsel robert mueller has reportedly questioned the pharmaceutical company novartis about payments to trump s attorney michael cohen. this comes after cohen sold himself as an adviser and offered to provide intel on the trump white house. now, stormy daniels attorney telling joy reed cohen formed a relationship with a d.c. law firm. let s listen to michael avenatti. what did michael cohen sell as it related to the idea that they were going to allow michael cohen to come to the law firm? it s pretty clear what he sold them. what he sold them was a book of clients. a book of corporations or individuals that had already retained them for access to the u.s. president. that needs to be the next inquiry. joining me now, federal and white collar criminal attorney
won t voluntarily interview. but, again, mueller has the subpoena power at thiz disposal. i will point out that it could take a while to sort of get a ruling, ultimate ruling especially if it goes up to the supreme court. time is on sort of giuliani s side when he talks about sort of a bargaining tool here. he tried really hard to circumscribe the scope of any voluntary investigation saying it could only last two or three hours and we can only discuss these certain types of questions. that s just not necessarily how it s going to go down if mueller doesn t feel like he will get all the information he needs. caroline, thank you for your insights. see you again. the author of a new book that explores, and fear fallout from the president s withdrawal from the iran nuclear deal. don t skip that office meeting for a board meeting without it. don t keep it real. keep it going. or simply keep it in the family without it.