that connection between russian business interests and the trump organization. so i think it s a consequential day. shepard: so the lying is at least in part about money. correct. before we have been talking about wikileaks as you indicated before. mr. stone and mr. corsi is one thread. and now we re getting into the finances. it s going to get to the president s tax returns one would assume. once you start getting into the finances, as you deal with any sort of conspiracy or fraud or anything in the white collar area, it always comes down to money or nine out of ten times and this is probably no exception. shepard: the money laundering has been in the either here as the investigation goes on. there s a lot of examples. for example, back in 2004 when the president bought the house for what was $45 million and then sold it to a russian