crisis after another. you wonder if they ve invested any money in crisis management there or if the people at the very top be it mark zuckerberg or sheryl sandberg just aren t listening. yeah, our poll, joe, showed a massive drop in the favorable ratings of facebook. given all the coverage you ve been talking about on the show for the last month or so. i think what happened here, you had a company that was treated as just as a gem of american society for a decade, got no scrutiny. every story about zuckerberg and sandberg extremely positive. big growth. huge platform. one of the most powerful companies in the history of mankind and then suddenly, basketball, they start getting hit with stories about manipulation related to the election. bam, you get hit with data breaches, suddenly people start acting, well, wait a second. what does facebook know about me? it turns out it knows a lot about you and tyou, the
election. i think lawmakers, they don t really know what to ask for. they don t know that much about technology, many of them, unless you re on the relevant committees and know they are frustrated and know voters are frustrated and would like to have mark zuckerberg appear before that committees and probably more likely than not now. but in terms of them digging deeper there aren t that many that have that level of expertise. robert mueller does, i think one of the most fascinating things about whatever materializes from robert mueller is he s going to bring together all these epic stories into one tale. he s got the russian interference and manipulation of platforms and everything else he knows about donald trump that we don t even know yet about donald trump. and facebook is at the center. it is interesting because of that i think one of the biggest shifts you re see something among democrats and liberals in terms of their view of facebook. because they blame facebook. many of them b
who won t listen to you and take your advice and expects you to get them out of the situations that he will put himself in, he won t even pay them. yeah, you know, we were talking a second ago about poll numbers and facebook actually, those poll numbers going down. mark zuckerberg, i don t know if you saw it but he is still apologizing over the cambridge analytica scandal and his company keeps taking a hit. i want to bring in right now the co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei. he joins us now with some exclusive new numbers and, jim, man, this so many things have hit facebook and it really does seem remarkable that you have a company that is this powerful that is this wealthy that is at the center of american cultural life and the people at the top of their company seem woefully ill-equipped to handle one
individual, gave it to them and now in crisis and i don t think they know how to handle crisis and just starting to get their footing. jim, it s heidi here. there s still a lot of evidence that could be in the data imprints that facebook holds in terms of this russia investigation. how all of that information was used and to what extent by cambridge analytica. any sense that on the hill, there may be subpoenas coming to facebook in this investigation to type out specifically who the operators were behind this data because all along there s been speculation that the russians had u.s. help and that facebook may have some of those answers as to who the helpers were. yeah, i think on that front what facebook says, what sheryl sandberg has told us in the past they re turning over everything they can to be helpful and russia interference in the
unease and some the doubts have been raised, questions in their mind, things they want to know about. they don t want to see the country in crisis, they don t want to see impeachment but want to know the truth about what happened in 2016 and they want to have the questions that they have in their minds resolved and are putting their faith in mueller in a very solid way to be the guy who will deliver them in the end the truth and the facts about that. well, and so some questions are obviously being raised about donald trump, about facebook. if you look at the numbers, facebook s numbers are falling precipitously, now we have cambridge analytica coming in there. i think americans want to know the truth and at the end of the day republicans and democrat as like, the majority of them actually believe that no man or woman is above the law so right now if you look at these numbers, the marist numbers and compare them to other political figures, other public figures in