or three years ago were talking about even before donald trump was a factor, what is vladimir putin s wish list. you know, break off our cherished relationships, damage them with canada and great britain. try to damage nato. generate problems in europe. try to jeopardize the position of angela merkel in germany, generate this kind of you know, dissonance between us and the liberals, classic liberals of europe. it s all happening. and donald trump has never explained to americans why it s happening. every other president when he undertakes a policy that it s a departure from what other presidents have done, they feel the responsibility to give a speech of some length or more than one speech to the american people saying you know, you may not understand why i m doing this but let me take awhile to explain logically why it s happening. we have no idea why this is happening. i can michael beschloss, it s always a pleasure. terrifying stuff these days but
indictments are coming. and i do believe it s dangerous to make predictions, but i really do believe, you know, if you read between the lines here what we re going to be looking at next is indictments of u.s. citizens. glen, do you buy that general flow that first the russians, then the americans that this document is a bit of a turning point and a bit of a portion of this case that s now on the record, it s stamped away and we move on? i do, brian. and i agree with mimi. when we as federal prosecutors investigate the really large cases. for example, rico cases, racketeer influence and corrupt organization cases, it is entirely usual that there are multiple indictments returned over time. often prosecutors will batch together defendants who have something in common or offenses that are all part of a common scheme or plan. so i would say this is bob
putin s wish list, you know, break off our cherished relationships, damage them with canada and great britain, try to damage nato. generate problems in europe, try to jeopardize the position of angela merkel in germany, generate this kind of you know, dissonance between us and the liberals classical liberals of europe. it s all happening. donald trump has never explained to americans why it s happening. every other president when he undertakes a policy that it s a departure from other presidents have done, they feel the responsibility to give a speech of some length or more than one speech to the american people saying you know, you may not understand why i m doing this but let me take awhile to explain logically why it s happening. we have no idea why this is happening. michael beschloss, it s always a pleasure. some terrifying stuff these days, but it some day we ll go back to talk about u.s. history. how is that.
that a prosecutor can tell a story. prosecutors can tell stories through indictment. they can tell stories through court filings or they can tell stories through trials. this was a 29-page indictment. extraordinarily long for an indictment. it s what we call a speaking indictment that lays out in great detail all these crimes. and it s pretty clear to me that mueller did that so he could get this story on the record. he could go to rod rosenstein, allow him to put it on the record before the president went in. the last thing you d want is for the president of the united states to go into a meeting with vladimir putin not knowing the evidence that his own government had obtained about russian efforts to interfere with the election. i think they did him a service. and what about what is said and not said in that meeting, nelson? well, president trump has a habit of speaking to vladimir putin without americans and without american interpreters
investigation in the larger cases. and again, i agree with mimi that this indictment virtually screams that, folks, the next thing that s coming is indictments of anybody who in america who are americans and participated in this scheme with russia to undermine our election. so mimi, one thing you and i talk about a lot on this broadcast is the chance and potential of this mueller-trump sit down. did anything about that in your view change in this document today? well, yes, because now we know a very important fact. everyone had always taken notice of trump s speech back during the campaign where he said, russia, if you re listening everyone would appreciate it if you released hillary clinton s e-mails. and we now know from this indictment a very important fact which was really highlighted in