accountable, protect whistle-blowers, and focus on results rather than on process. protect whistle-blowers. i give you president trump at the united nations just two years ago. and that s your reality check. it s important words to hear, john. i have to say, it s a stunning place that we ve come to where it s a profile in courage for senator chuck grassley to stand up and say a whistle-blower who follows the whistle-blower process, maybe we should listen. but it is. it is. it shouldn t be but here we are. all right. moments ago, you heard secretary of state mike pompeo make an admission he has avoided for ten days. he said, i was on the phone call. he gave a dishonest answer about this ten days ago. why the change? what does it tell us about what s going on inside the trump administration? that s next. (dramatic orchestra)
whistle-blower. i don t think that s going to happen. i do think it s interesting part of this conversation. one of the things we are seeing, as this process goes on, is that there is a real irregularities. with this was this whistle-blower process. whistle-blowers are important, but that process can have problems with it. as part of this, it s really important because of the bottom of it. why are we doing with secondhand information? why are we dealing with the whistle-blower process that change at the last minute? if i m the president of the unites states and on the subject, i want to know the answers to that question. harris: the whistle-blower protection act of 1989, specific to federal workers who can show a crime, abuse of power, or really anything. if it s based on secret information. do you think the president or anybody publicly has a right to know who this person is? he says he has a right to see who his accuser is. i think you need a process where the whistle-blower goes
you. i worked in the federal government now for nearly three years. i know what the deep state looks like. i know the difference between a whistleblower and a deep state operative. this is a deep state operate chb pure and simple. people who haven t worked in the white house may not appreciate this, but the situation is you vaf group of unelect aed bureaucrats who think that they need to take down this president. david jolly, in addition to that steechben miller did say that this was a partisan that had come forward, that this was not a whistleblower skbrjust bee he had undertaken the whistleblower process. is this the laying out of the strategy that will be coming from republican whz they do hear the whistleblower testimony? part of it at best that is discussed in character assassination and at worst it is a conspiracy theory by one of the senior advisers to the
it. they have to explain why it okay. i don t have any problems with explanations or hearings in order to understand exactly what happened, but don t jump to the conclusion that that s obstruction of justice. i m identifying it as an issue. fair point. i m identifying also if the d.o.j. knew about this in advance before it even went through the whistle-blower process, it then raises the issue is that why you were so reluctant to have this complaint go to congress, because you knew what it was about, you looked at the transcript of the call, you knew it was bad for the president and you decided to sleep on that statute and makes it pretty clear is that an abuse of power? no. again, there are legitimate executive privilege issues, legitimate issues with diplomatic implications, making sure there s not public disclosure of a private conversation between two world leaders. it s not just one thing. i understand everybody is now excited about the white house sat on this and the j
rudy giuliani, there, clinging to this argument that there s something to the biden allegations despite that doing so in the first place put the president in so much political peril. sarah westwood. have a great weekend. it will be a busy weekend with the speed this is moving. thank you, sarah. the safety of whistleblowers, a major condition. top house democrats are warning president trump to stop what they call reprehensible witness intimidation. three committee chairmen write, threats of violence from the leader of our country have a chilling effect on the entire whistleblower process, with grave consequences for our democracy and national security. a gofundme for the whistleblower has reached $125,000. we ll be right back. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure