security in general. i appreciate you coming on and giving us your views. always a pleasure, chuck. let me go to the other side of the aisle, house democrat whip, steny hoyer. you have a good personal relationship with kevin mccarthy. you know about whip counts. i do. where are we on this vote? will hurd said they don t have 218 republican votes for the $5 billion. so now what? well, i hope that s the case. i hope they don t have the votes because it is a meaningless act. but it is an act trying to give individuals on kevin mccarthy s side of the aisle a chance to vote for the 5 billion. they haven t had the chance except in committee, it hasn t been on the floor. i think that s hopefully what he is doing, hopefully doesn t have the majority of republicans, won t have any democrats, and i
their whip counts. their letters, their strategies with manuel miranda or the other republicans in the senate. it was enormous battle throughout that year, and his statements only underscored how untruthful he s being in this hearing and in his prior hearings. lisa graves, former senate lawyer who wrote some of the documents that were stolen from senate democrats. during the george w. bush administration, some of these documents that brett kavanaugh does appear to have lied about under oath. thank you for helping us understand the story tonight, lisa. it s nice to meet you. thanks for being here. thank you so much. all right. we ll be right back. stay with us.
grasp, in essence, of the administration, which is trying to keep these documents secret, you can see that the information was provided by miranda to kavanaugh relate to the most controversial, most heated battles over these nominees, these very controversial nominees, including nominees who had records of being incredibly anti-choice nominees. but leaving aside the substance of, that what s quite clear is everyone who was in those battles, including brett kavanaugh himself, quite frankly, including the white house which was fighting tooth and nail to try to break the filibuster of the senate democrats, to try to force us to move forward with those nominees, this was not an atmosphere in which people were sharing their strategic research, their talking points, their whip counts, their letters, their strategies with manuel miranda or the other republicans in the senate. it was enormous battle throughout that year, and his statements only underscored how untruthful he s being in this
announcer: end game brought to you by boeing, continuing our mission to connect, protect, b. continuing our mission to connect, protect, explore, and inspire. back now with end game, we re actually going to stick to the politics of this. stephanie, i want you i m going to hit you here with the democratic base that in some ways it s 2020 politics that is drawing the line in the sand here about on daca. some of your former colleagues have a popular podcast called pod save america. john favro, all former white house folks. they were doing whip counts. it was those between fight club and those in the waffle house. and they put donley, hide camp, jones. how much is the base driving this outside?
he said he believes those whip counts he has are accurate this morning. so they are making that driving push towards 216 votes needed. as people filter out of this meeting, this does teeter on the bring of a few votes. as we ve been reporting. congressman carbello was undecided. he remains undecided. he said the meeting is positive but he still needs time to review the text. he said the updated amendment that was added was certainly a step in the right direction but not sure if it s a step far enough to get his yes vote. still undecided, sunday ltha fascinating, hours before the vote. sounds like ail congressman doesn t want to be the deciding vote one way or the other unless he absolutely has to be. thanks so much. we ll stay on that. as you re looking at live pictures of the house floor there on capitol hill, moments away from the first floor debate on the rules. moving ahead to the full vote in