show has put her reputation on it. the build back better agenda and all of that in the context of the craziness going on on our southern border, afghan and all that, they ve got to deliver. whether manchin and sinema will cobble this thing down into the 2-2.5 trillion, they ll sell that as a bargain to the american public, we re still slowly going down the road now more quickly to running this biggest business in the world, the federal government, into the ditch especially like when the medicare trust fund goes completely depletedded here in about four or five years. it s a tricky act. there s going to be a sugar high going into the elections in 2022 from all this largess and spending, and spending is an absolute. raising the money through tax revenues, that is a soft figure. there s no way they can sell in that you re going to pay for it, i don t buy that. neil: so, senator, let s step back from this and say, you
any surprise to you that he s going there? it s quite ominous because not only is he doing that, but you have a case where one of the republican possible senate candidates in nevada is already talking about preemptive lawsuits against fraud. we are moving into a period where essentially any election republicans lose, you re going to have a substantial part of the party claiming fraud. and that s why, look, i mean democrats face an existential by passing some version of h.r. 1 through the senate. i mean there s no more consequential decision they face on whether manchin and sinema will agree to create some kind of carveout because this is only a small preview of what s ahead. i do think it s a preview also this recall is a preview also in the way that newsom has talked about mandates. this is a big change in terms of going on the offense around this. you know, last year republicans
any election republicans lose you ll have a substantial part of the party claiming fraud. democrats face a decision whether they ll use their power in washington by passing some version of h.r. 1 through the senate. there is no more consequential decision they face on whether manchin and sinema will agree to create some kind of carve out. because this is only a small preview of what s ahead and i do think it is a preview this recall is a preview also in the way newsom has talked about mandates. i mean, this is a big change in terms of going on the offense around this. last year, republicans ran against democrats for closing things down, locking things down. but now, newsom has been able to argue it s the republican position that threatens to close down schools or businesses because by undoing vaccine or mask mandates, you would allow the virus to get to that point. two-thirds of voters who are vaccinated in california said
make that compromise? this 55 vote threshold instead of 60, we ve had some democrats open to that and ross conservative writer at the times, is that a compromise or is that to radioactive for some. it is not like the founding fathers chiseled 60 into the stone tablet of the constitution. it was three-fourths and then it became three-fifths. so they have the complexibility to change it. but the question is, is the appetite there to do it. and the op-ed suggests it is not just the filibuster but it is 60 that she s committed to at this point is that a negotiating posture or is she solid. time will tell. i think this emphasis on whether manchin is with the 50. let s say he is. it still doesn t mean he s going
cinema and manchin are taking the heat for a number of other democratic senators who also don t want to eliminate the filibuster but represent more liberal states. so, you know, don t want to publicly say-so. i don t know if there were 48 democratic votes for eliminating the filibuster, whether manchin and cinema would be willing to overturn it, but i think the truth is if they don t do it and the republican restrictions work you will have to see the democrats move, you know, significantly to the right to be able to stay competitive in these states, and it is not even clear to me that that will work. so a lot of progressives focus on cinema and manchin as the people who should get your attention, protests and phone calls to change this. is your argument that there s more out there than cinema and manchin, who are using cinema and manchin as cover for not having to vote on this matter, getting rid of the filibuster? i think that s what the