welcome to hardtalk. thanks, stephen. good to be on with you. it s great to have you on the show. senator, would you agree that, day by day, the israel hamas war is becoming more of a headache for presidentjoe biden? i think this is the most consequential period in modern israeli history, and i think president biden did exactly the right thing in engaging directly, immediately, flying over to israel, deploying two aircraft carrier groups. but it is becoming a real challenge for us domestically and internationally. his commitment to israel, their right to self defence, their ability to carry out a difficult and intense campaign against hamas is unwavering. but he is also privately engaging with israeli leaders and pressing for more humanitarian relief, for a clear plan for what comes after in gaza and the region, and for a more targeted campaign. unwavering, you say. and yet the outside world sees a biden message which is changing. in the early days it was all, we have got yo
senator chris coons, welcome to hardtalk. thanks, stephen. good to be on with you. it s great to have you on the show. senator, would you agree that, day by day, the israel hamas war is becoming more of a headache for presidentjoe biden? i think this is the most consequential period in modern israeli history, and i think president biden did exactly the right thing in engaging directly, immediately, flying over to israel, deploying two aircraft carrier groups. but it is becoming a real challenge for us, domestically and internationally. his commitment to israel, their right to self defence, their ability to carry out a difficult and intense campaign against hamas is unwavering. but he is also privately engaging with israeli leaders and pressing for more humanitarian relief, for a clear plan for what comes after in gaza and the region, and for a more targeted campaign. unwavering, you say, and yet the outside world sees a biden message which is changing. in the early days it wa
senator chris coons, welcome to hardtalk. thanks, stephen. good to be on with you. it s great to have you on the show. senator, would you agree that, day by day, the israel hamas war is becoming more of a headache for presidentjoe biden? i think this is the most consequential period in modern israeli history, and i think president biden did exactly the right thing in engaging directly, immediately, flying over to israel, deploying two aircraft carrier groups. but it is becoming a real challenge for us domestically and internationally. his commitment to israel, their right to self defence, their ability to carry out a difficult and intense campaign against hamas is unwavering. but he is also privately engaging with israeli leaders and pressing for more humanitarian relief, for a clear plan for what comes after in gaza and the region, and for a more targeted campaign. unwavering, you say. and yet the outside world sees a biden message which is changing. in the early days it was
well, it is over and the anchors are saying goodbye and the two men are standing there at their podiums, both of them looking as if they are still very much on camera and still very serious. that kind of gloomy look, that presidential look that they are both trying to affect. but, oh my goodness, as they continue to stand at the podium, i think many people in america, who have watched this debate will be wondering what on earth is going on. they turned to leave, and at that stage, cnn catch to a wider shot as the president and former president trump leaves the stage. they don t go close to each other. joe biden is there, and there are people there i think family members with him on the stage. but the whole thing has been the most rambling, peculiar affair. someone in a focus group, quite early on in the course of the debate said it was a choice between the circus or the nursing home. and there has been a feeling i think among many, many people watching that, number one, the
massively overloaded. i mean, even a dinghy of that size, it s really playing with danger. when the weather is calm, you can stand on top of those famous white cliffs of dover and see the border force and rnli bring groups of migrants to shore. some channel watchers even have clickers and literally count people in. it s become a very visible thing, which helps explain why politicians have become so exercised by the issue. so far this year, around 13,000 migrants have arrived by small boat, but that figure is dwarfed by the number of migrants coming legally. last year, net migration, the difference between the number of people arriving in the uk and leaving, stood at 685,000. at this cafe in dover, migration in all its forms is certainly a hot topic. if they didn t let them in the country, you wouldn t have the problems we got. what problems? erm, housing, cost of living and everything like that. there s too many of them being brought in on our money, really. it s been going o