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now. he and the rest of the state department crew listen carefully to the words of omar suleiman this afternoon when he described that president mubarak stepped down. there has been lots of speculation about what suleiman s fate is. suleiman remains a key part of this supreme council of the armed forces. he s a retired military man, and he is a present sitting member of the supreme council of the armed forces. he s a part of the decision-making process. i would not believe my speculation that he s a goner at this point. megyn: president obama expected to make a statement in a few moments. i m robert shapiro. over a million people have discovered how easy it is
and there has to be no vagueness about that in the minds of the people in the street. fawaz, if that were to happen, would this be different? yes. yes, it would be different. and i mean i think the united states must think in terms of the long term. this is the beginning. it s the beginning of something very big, not just in egypt, throughout the arab world. you have a new era. this is the beginning of the crisis in egypt and other arab countries. what s striking about the speeches today is how disconnected mubarak and suleiman are. they re dinosaurs. they re out of it. this is the reality. they don t understand what s happening in the country. look at what suleiman said. we would have expected suleiman to appreciate the complexity and the danger of the situation. he blamed the unrest on subversive forces. he said satellite stations are responsible for the unrest, you and i and all of us are inciting the egyptian people.
done to journalists, what has been done to ghonim? he s mubarak s mubarak. that this man will oversee a democratic transition is unbelievable. it cannot be imagined. he s a man of the police, if you will, of the secret police of this regime. and when you listen to what suleiman says, you can understand it. you can understand the objection of the people to him and objection of the protesters to him. he s already warned everyone that they either have a dialogue on his terms, his kind of dialogue under his conditions or they should be ready for a coup d etat. because mubarak has been such a polarizing figure. because the protest has so much focus on the personality of
hill. join chuck and savannah at 9:00 eastern for the daily rundown. egypt day 16 of protesting, no sign of either side backing down. tens of thousands of people protested in the square and in front of the parliament. sympathy strikes is a new phase of the uprising. the white house is pushing the egyptian government to do more to address the opposition demanding. vice president suleiman says they are running out of patience and may use police to break up the protests. john heilman joins us now. administration efficients say they are not happy with what suleiman has done. the government is making it hard for journalists to cover this by insisting they leave the square,
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