and we ve seen in past administrations, there are several prominent in the president s inner circle, kellyanne conway, sarah huckabee sanders, he relied on hope hicks. where is this kind of lining thinking coming from? we talked to some people who had worked with john kelly over the years who said that these are just his views for better or worse that he has some sort of antiquated views about women. and he also people have told us that he is close with or has good relationship with kellyanne conway as well and his right hand person is a barack obawomat the head of department of homeland security. so it is not a one dimensional sort of picture, but that is kind of reflected in the way that the white house spokespeople that i talked to pushed back on this or what their response was when we asked them about the reporting on what kelly has said about women, he said he is the biggest gentleman in the room, if a man curses in
their asses on the sofas eating bonbons and they forget to sign up. no wonder it is hard to get a deal. one thing that has been confusing to advocates for a deal at least for the broader pool, kelly has appeared to be on various sides at various times. john kelly is not unlike his boss. one of the ways we have seen his rhetoric. the other is saying different things to different people depending on who he is with. there is no question if he has wanted a deal related to daca at various points, it was because this was an obstacle to other things and this was checking a box to get rid of a problem, not because he felt an emotional connection to this issue. the president, to your point, has expressed more of an emotional connection, when he is not saying other things on twitter. the starkest thing i have seen comports with what kelly is
majority leader of new jersey and co-chair of the committee investigating the governor. mr. mayor, you re a former u.s. attorney. if somebody came to you with an investigation that came to a conclusion like the one that christie s investigation did but it did not interview the five most important players in the investigation including bridget kelly, bill stepien, bill baroni, all these people all involved in it, would you accept that as a complete investigation as a former u.s. attorney? no, no, i would not accept it a a an complete investigation but i would accept it for what it s worth. in other words, i would go through it in great detail because it can give you a tremendous amount of information. so far, no one has gotten to interview those people including the joint committee. this report has gone as far par as anybody can go. it can give you very valuable information. for example, what kelly, stepien and these people were saying at the time to other witnesses. all of which is i
investigating the governor. mr. mayor, you re a former u.s. attorney. if somebody came to you with an investigation that came to a conclusion like the one that christie s investigation did but it did not interview the five most important players in the investigation including bridget kelly, bill stepien, bill baroni, all these people all involved in it, would you accept that as a complete investigation as a former u.s. attorney? no, no, i would not accept it a a an complete investigation but i would accept it for what it s worth. in other words, i would go through it in great detail because it can give you a tremendous amount of information. so far, no one has gotten to interview those people including the joint committee. this report has gone as far par as anybody can go. it can give you very valuable information. for example, what kelly, stepien and these people were saying at the time to other witnesses. all of which is in the report. i happen to have read the report can be extrem
this report has gone as far as anybody can go. it can give you very valuable information. for example, what kelly, stepien and these people were saying at the time to other witnesses. all of which is in the report. i happen to have read the report can be extremely important evidence. actually, i found sometimes the things they say back then, that witnesses say back at the time the event is going on, are far more credible than they might say to investigators later when they re looking for immunity or they re looking for indemnification. so no, it s not a final or complete report. but nor should it be tossed aside as not having extremely valuable information. i understand that. the governor s lawyer called it vindication. i take it you don t think you should use those words? well, i would say it s a vindication of the position that the governor didn t know beforehand and didn t order it about as clear as you can get it barring these two or three witnesses who might have