to the doj s office of the inspector general on friday. in doing so, rosen pointed the finger at this guy, jeffrey clark, a trump loyalist and member of the conservative federalist society who was then serving as the acting head of the doj s civil division. the new york times reports that rosen told investigators that clark admitted to meeting with trump and pledged that he would not do so again. yet clark still continued to press colleagues to make statements about the election that they found to be untrue. additionally, rosen discovered that clark had been engaging in unauthorized conversations with trump about ways to have the justice department publicly cast doubt on president biden s victory. this comes after we learned that clark had tried to send a letter to officials in georgia pressing them to nullify the will of the voters. separately, we ve learned from congressman krishnamoorthi that he drafted a letter for six states.
and then shortly thereafter you have an attempt to violently overturn the election, that feels like more than just two separate coincidental things happening. should we start to start thinking about those things as connected? yeah, joy, let s just talk about the law of conspiracy and then look at what donald trump did and what jeffrey clark did to see if their conduct satisfies the two elements of the crime of conspiracy. a conspiracy is nothing more than two or more people agreeing to commit crime. and then one of the conspirators must do one thing toward the commission of the crime, we call that an overt act. i tell you, when i saw i think it was katie benner s reporting about what jeffrey clark did, the first thing that leapt to mind is we ve got an overt act. why? because donald trump told his doj officials, go out and tell everybody the election was corrupt, even though there was no evidence that the election was corrupt. of course donald trump helpfully
added and i ll take care of the rest, together with my republican allies in congress. what did jeffrey clark do? he took that nefarious suggestion and he ran with it. he then drafted a letter to state officials in georgia and five other states saying in essence, we think the election might be corrupt. here s how you can get rid of the slate of electors for joe biden and pick selectors for donald trump and basically corruptly throw him the election. that act by jeffrey clark drafting the letter, circulating it to other doj officials, he didn t have to send it. that s an overt act that proves the crime of conspiracy. once the conspiracy is committed because you have the agreement and one overt act, you don t have to go on to commit the object of the conspiracy. the crime of conspiracy is complete. that s what we see in the reporting of what donald trump and jeffrey clark did.
supporting, orchestrating the assault on the capitol. there s a lot that we need to know. we re only looking at the surface right now in the capitol of who went into the building, who the trespassers were. nobody has been charged who had any kind of a role who was not in the building, who might have been an organizer or a conspirator. same here, we re going to have to look behind the protagonists or i should say behind the bit players to see who the architects of the scheme were. let me play one of your colleagues on the other side of the aisle, chuck grassley, defending donald trump meeting with jeffrey clark. take a listen. the president has every right to discuss ideas and strategies with his closest advisers. the president. whether that president is democrat or republican should feel unrestrained to bring ideas to his closest staff for robust discussion. to be clear as a matter of
overturn as many as six states elections and then that is followed by a violent insurrection that has the same purpose, how close in your view did we come to seeing our essentially our democracy thrown out the window this year? i think pretty damn close. i think we ve got a lot of work to do to figure this out. so far we know from january 6th a lot of what happened in the building as the assaulters attacked the capitol to disrupt the election. and we know a lot here of what happened in the building as a subordinate tried to cook up a plan with the white house to trigger states to overturn the election. what we don t know is who was behind those things and were there connectivities between who was asking or telling the subordinate, jeffrey clark, what to do and who was organizing,