information, corruptly concealing documents nationa, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and alsoracy to 18 u.s.c. 1001e statements. now, let s not pretend here because over the next year, mayb. e more than that, maybeonger, longer, we re going to be seeing a very complicated legal process that will unfold regarding this indictment. ste we re going to cover it every step of the way as it does es unfold. e at dif and i m sure at different points, you re going to see merrick garland, the attorney on the hill, insisting that this prosecutionthe hill all bee by the books without political fear or favor. are going to be filed.motion cross motions are goings to be filed. leaks will happen, but maybe in an unconventional wa hapy. but i want to be veryy clea clear upfront herer . tens of millions of americans believe that donald trump isican being indicted by d fbi because he s a political opponent of the d.c. establishment and joe biden and, of course est he s the most popular rep
fund. so tonight, more than t ever, we need gop officeholderswould- and would be office holders to speak up and to speak outbeas as soon as possible. this indictment will be an embarrassing to the countrynd and should be dismissed immediately before any more damagld be is done. joining me now, jim trusty, attorney for president trumpus and former federal prosecutor. jim, thank you for joiningt. tonight. what can you tell us aboutl the charges as you know, them? . well, we don t have the actualil indictment yet. i suppose they ll give that to ul gives at some point betwed and tuesday afternoon. maybe they re too embarrassed to give it to us early. i don t know. but it s a combination of theoretical. t have again, we just have a summary. we don t have the indictment in front of us, but it looks like don t hit loo the espionage act, which is kind of laughable on ite thst several types of obstructionface and conspiracy, then falsestatem statement. so they re kind of throwing everything
hounds to go after a non-criminal eventically to basically incapacitate the opposition. it is an astoundinate thg third world moment. and again, that s not th schtick. as attorney to go around saying that in cases, but that s where we are as a is countrwhe y and you know, the ob people that are celebrating tonight better realize that they re lettinraght bettze theyf the genie bottle that s going to hurt this country for generations. genera well, and the investigations can be turned on them and will be turned on thetim if this is allowed to stand. jim, we appreciate it. obviously, we reo covering evey aspect of this. thank you very much. now joining me now is mike davivery mucs, three founder and president, as well as david schoen, of course, formeunder ar trump lawyer. david, let s start with you. chment l it seems pretty clear what s going on here. they re they re going to endon n making this about obstruction instead of the retention of these documents so they can try to draw a d
and by the way, laura, one quick point on this. sure. the referral from the national archives to doj came fromes t the white housee hous actually violating the administrative procedures act. actually violating tt. they s this they re the ones that started this thing. the the politicized bureaucrats at nara, the archivist, were happy to push it forward and into this pretorian guard of doj who s bent on prosecuting them no matter how many rules they break. one of the one of the claimrs believe one of the counts will involve potential obstruction justice, which, as you know in my old careery ol as ad as white collar criminal defense attorney, jim was considered very seriously alongy with conspiracy counts s, whicht perhaps will be involved in this indictment as well, listed in the indictment that aat is ra the concern that is raised that if if the president was told not to move boxes and they have evenone on video indeed moving boxes, even if there was nothing in the boxess noth, thoe p
correspond and jim says thatrred trump doesn t have a defense in that this legal strategy that he has, guess that wil you re leading will just focus on discrediting the do j. watch this. trump s lawyers are really not keen on arguing the facts hereer or the law and are arguing that their client is is not guilty of these potential charges, but arey re more concernedf these with arguing about how the doj played hardball. and look, they did plaj y in ths case and we ll just have to see whether the justice department did anything wrong in the proces.to see ws of prosecus case. jim, the argument that you won t actually argue the charges, you re just going to argue the reputatio the cha h the department itself? no, i mean, look, this waso e basically trying to appeal thatn thaty in that chaibo pretorian guard for the democratic party to have a conscienced. ence. you know, the attorney general is hiding behind the special counsel. he still control general hinds as specialhere and coun