me to do this. so mike, if you re unhappy with me, i m sorry but i accomplished my mission. i have no idea if he s unhappy with me or not and i frankly don t care. it s not the first time rudy giuliani has brought up secretary of state mike pompeo. what questions would you have now for him? look, giuliani seems to think that saying that somehow he was coordinating with someone in the state department or multiple people in the state department makes what he was doing legitimate. that is not true. what it could mean is that the state department or people in the state department are implicated in what giuliani was doing, which was essentially, as i said before, soliciting help from a foreign power to help with a campaign, which we know is not okay. he s conducting this like rogue investigation, he is not the fbi. he is not the department of justice. there are proper channels to do that through if a u.s. citizen needs to be investigated for criminal conduct with the aid of
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a foreign country. so if rudy giuliani, the president s personal lawyer, thinks that having someone in the state department and we don t even know if that s true, first of all. obviously someone needs to look at what the state department actually was doing. there seems to be some reporting that they were trying to sort of fend off giuliani s pressure that he was putting on ukraine and put conditions on them. but that s what needs to be investigated. we need to get to the bottom and i think senator harris has called for the state department ig to look into that. again, i think a functioning department of justice would be doing a criminal investigation of this right now. mimi, i appreciate your perspective. today coming up a new poll has given us a snapshot of what seems to be a shift in how people are thinking about impeachment. do they like it better or worse at this point? we re on the campaign trail with where voters stand and the effect all of this is having on the 2020 race.
it s soliciting foreign help in your campaign for reelection for president of the united states and it s something that i think people would generally find alarming. ukraine helped hillary clinton, so we have to separate a whole bunch of things here. the idea people who are you know, president trump had some weird messaging on this, on the one hand it s all made up and fake news, on the other hand he said he was spied on which suggest that in fact, allegations are true. rudy giuliani comes on air today and takes great that he s a political man, 7 minutes of the biggest political hitman i have ever seen. i think there s a lot of smoke and bluster on what giuliani is doing, it could all be true. if the president of the united states tried to bend national security based upon his own partisan self-interest that would be very, very bad and the people who say he s interested in corruption, that seems to be