and jen, the conservative partnership institutes 2020 to report states, quote, with our expanded presence in d. c. we re launching cpi academy, a formal program of training for congressional staff and curren and future members of th movement jen, how could anyone look a maggie s record, three los elections in a row, january 6th, lauren boebert, marjorie taylo greene, and think that this is the future well, frankly, it would b very nice if they kept teachin the same thing over and over again. it s really sort of the school for dropouts and for failures. so sure, send them all in, let more people take their wonderful course curriculum. but it also does speak to what eugene was just saying why are they trainin congressional staff? it s one thing to train people in a movement, but when you ar training members of on political party s congressiona staff, that sounds like it s
i have a sense we ll have a clear idea in the spring. implicit saying you re considering running, you could be a different president if not a better president than your former boss. can you delineate one policy difference you might have with him? i think the times call for different leadership, and i m confident we ll have better choices. and you re thinking about being one? than my old running mate come 2024. have you talked to him lately? i have not. all right. so ali, the question i have is does mike pence, does nikki haley, do they know something about donald trump s vulnerability here that we do not? well, look, they re probably hearing what i hear, what you hear, what eugene probably hears when we go to these conservative cattle calls and talk to republican voters, there is a concern among people who like trump that maybe there s just too much baggage at this point,
first documents. transparency would have even honest and forthright, going through the right process, talking to the national archives to get the documents. that is all true, but then they know that they haven t done a great job of explaining it. now they can convene on the fact that they have a special counsel investigation, and that they should not be saying a lot more. once the lawyers get involved, there s a lot less say in how they get to talk about some of these things. joyce, it strikes me with what eugene just said right there, competing with the statement of the president s personal attorney, about the tension between transparency and the needs of making sure that the investigation is honored, the guardrails are there. i wonder if you can talk a little bit about that tension, and also about what you are watching next in the special counsel s investigation? i m sure that biden folks are extremely concerned about
four i probably tired out your audience showing x-rays. x-rays of these patients, otherwise healthy, are filled with post from covid. they re not clear with you. that s number one. i would say just two feet off what eugene and susan have said, we re talking about disinformation and misinformation, but there s also just confusing information that exists. i look at l.a. county, for example. that decided to do an indoor mask mandate. but with all due respect, i understand wanting to err on the side of caution. but when you make a move like that that s counter to what the cdc has put out there, you have to have sides to back it up. what do they have? they have 60% plus one vaccination rate. test positivity, 3% or less. their hospitals are not stress right now from folk covid. the reason i say this is when it comes to winter, we re gonna have regional surges in places that are not vaccinated.
around that the president was trying to get a foreign country to investigate a political rival and didn t find that something that was too wrong that they want to go after. i think what you have in what eugene is writing about say listing is a listing of the people helping president trump. president trump and his supporters will say this is what the people voted for. they voted for someone that was going to have the norm-breaking policies. but think uzbeen righeugene is we did have two weeks of history of people that did speak up. coming up next, pulitzer prize winning author and presidential historian, doris go goodwin joins our table when we come back in two minutes. our t come back in two minutes. we re reporters from the new york times.