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MSNBC Morning Joe August 23, 2021 11:15:00

number of people that have to be taken out. it s a big problem because people are coming in thousands and there s a long jam but there s an exit point. at one point there was no exit either. you had people rejected, where the people who hadn t been rejected were staying. we were talking to a state department person who s working on the ground here. we heard these figures of 20, 30,000 americans and people who have a right to go to the united states being sort of the figure that was being worked on. the real figure we believe is actually nearer to 150,000 people minimum. that is an absolute huge task. there simply has to be an extension. and it really is going to come down to a discussion between the united states and the taliban as to whether that extension will happen. let s bring in the president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass and u.s. national editor at the financial times ed luce. good to have you both.

MSNBC Morning Joe August 23, 2021 10:07:00

already helping covid-19 patients across the country. i just got to say, you look at the headings down at the bottom and when they re talking, when they re talking about getting americans to take deworming pills that are used for cows, they have the audacity to have their lower third say covid confusion. no. covid confusion? it has been coming from many of the same sources, including one who is now acting shocked and stunned that there is a medical cartel that doesn t want you, that doesn t want you to take deworming medication for cows and horses. let me i m going to give it to you straight here, as i

MSNBC Morning Joe August 23, 2021 11:19:00

remnants of al qaeda, it has more moderate factions that want a more inclusive slightly more inclusive afghan government to be formed. we don t know the degree to which there is a central command there, with which we can do business. tomorrow the g7 are going to meet, boris johnson is hosting the g7. there s also going to be action at the united nations and the british and americans have been reaching out to the russians and the chinese in the belief that they hold sway with the taliban. but the fact is that although we ve got this pretty successful, so far, mini berlin air lift as that sky correspondent described it, the fact is that as we approach that august 31st deadline and realize that we still got tens of thousands of more afghans to get out, the pressure on the taliban and from within the taliban to

MSNBC Morning Joe August 23, 2021 10:40:00

while he was in power and while americans were spending billions of dollars on that country, you can certainly understand an argument for the other side, let s get out, let s get out now, 20 years is too long. i am wondering, though, jonathan lemire, as we move forward, katty was talking about there seemed to be a bit of softening in the president s tone over the weekend, understanding that everything didn t go according to plan. i m wondering if if we can expect more of that in the coming weeks, saying this is a thing that had to be done, yes, we were surprised. we re doing everything we can now to fix things up, fix the perimeter, bring americans home and to bring our allies home? katty is right. there was more squaring with the facts yesterday from the president. and also we ve seen a little more display of empathy from him about the situation that so many americans in afghan were going through, which was absent at the beginning part of the crisis,

MSNBC Morning Joe August 23, 2021 10:10:00

follow-up on the don t drink the bleach, fda had to put that out. don t inject it into your skin. hydroxychloroquine, it causes bad side effects don t take that. the fda had to put out a statement there. now we have to have people put out statements, please don t take your cow s deworming medicine. we can check these all off as noes. at the same time people are taking their cow s deworming medicine, they re not taking a vaccine that nearly 200 million americans have already taken. a vaccine that science shows, medicine shows will actually significantly cut the likelihood of you getting covid and getting bad side effects from covid down to like .00005. more of a chance to get struck by lightning, more of a chance to die from a tree falling on you than actually having a

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