gun violence, we ve had what happened with the parkland school in florida. that young americans are not buying into this business of racism at all. now, i don t believe and i don t think most white americans believe that the majority of americans are racist. but we can t take any comfort in that because we obviously have deep and abiing problems with what you have called and i compliment abc for this special tonight about every day racism. we obviously have some deep and abiding problems. once again, i would say we learn frommure lift. we go through these periods, and the civil rights movement in the let s 50s and early 60s was a period. we ve seen several of these periods. this may be part of a turning point what happened today. it s interesting you note the swiftness of the decision, the fact it happened against its monetary interests of the network. there was a market for this. i wonder what you think about
what s interesting about the roseanne situation because we kind have have always known who roseanne is, and we ve seen her tweets before she had the abc show, so we should not be that surprised, is that there are consequences for other people but we still don t have consequences for the person who occupies the most important job we can say in the world. and that should disturb us all, that we have greater consequences for a made up television show host than we do for the president of the united states. mckay coppins, linda chavez and michele jowanda, thank you all. there s a brand new episode of our new podcast why is this happening out today where we ask a question that obsesses me, who broke the internet and why something with such promise turned into something so ugly. tim wu, the man who coined the
what abc and disney did today frankly surprised me almost to the point shocking me. they made a big money decision, it costs them a lot of money. they decided the right thing. they decided it quickly. they decided against their own monetary interests. and i don t think you could give enough credit to the corporate leadership, iger, sherwood all of those people, this indicates there perception somehow trump is winning the battle for it s okay to say what you want, i don t think he is. maybe that s just a result of my optimism, but i don t think he is. we may look back on this day, chris, as another if not turning point part of some wide turning points that we ve seen. you know, back in the late 50s and early 60s we had young people leading the sit-ins and the freedom rides. we had young people who were dominant in large numbers following dr. martin luther king. more recently on the issue of
have you looked at the news because now things are worse. not on the real news. please. after that, roseanne revival debuteded in march and those ratings have declined since then, the president celebrated roseanne barr has a kindred spirit. look the an roseanne. i called her yesterday. look at her ratings. look at her ratings. they were unbelievable. over 18 million people. and it was about us. with me now to discuss all this my colleague and co-host for to know s town hall had, joy reid, the chair of the congressional black caucus, cedric richmond, democrat of louisiana. congressman, let me start with you. what is your reaction to abc s actions today? well, i think it was appropriate. i think it was swift. and i think it was warranted. so they made a quick decision, the right decision and applaud them for it.
joy, i have to say, you and i were talking about this today. roseanne has quite a history. it s not just this tweet. she said something about susan rice in 2013. she tracks in really deeply crazy conspiracy theories. you ve got to ask a question of like what, exactly did abc think it was getting. nostalgia. part of the lure of trumpism is that it does play to a certain nostalgia. you know, the data bears out of is a lot of is an imagined 1950s when they were more orderly relations between the sexes, between the races. there s that nostalgia part of the trump appeal and what the networks and what abc was looking at there s a knot nostalgia for a kind of television experience that s also a bygone. obviously given it opened to 22 million viewers, that is true. people want to look back to the past characters they had