prove the relevance. especially because of the internal jihadist competition between isis and al qaeda. isis is going to want to prove that it is still operationally capable so that people do not flock to the more established pedigree of al qaeda. so they will engage in such attacks across europe. the one thing that we can do is unfortunately in the short term, not much, but a long-term solution, that is to recognize that if we are in the midst of an insurgency. we need a counterinsurgency approach from jihadist, and as robin simcox side, not being taken as seriously as it needs to be. tucker: no, not at all. it s always great to have you on. thank you, a pleasure. tucker: the west is changing fast, society fraying in part thanks to attacks like today. let s look at the shot during the attack in barcelona.
men, these confederates in simple obedience to duty as they understood it. these men suffered all, sacrificed all, dared all, and to died. that is such a touching magnanimous recognition of the enemy pretty would not want to touch that. it is almost sacred, what that is. on the other hand, 100 years later, many southern states putting up statues to the confederacy. as symbols of not the civil war, but of the resistance to civil rights. and two supreme court rulings, desegregation. that is a very different category. and that s where it is far more problematic. but why it is a mistake to say categorically, yes, we keep them all, categorically no, we take them all away. tucker: i think that is of her point. i am bothered by the drive to erase the past. to tear things down, by the way,
[indistinguishable screaming] what happened? oh, god. what happened? tucker: can anything be done to stop the terror attacks prior to douglas murray is the author of strange death of europe, joining us now. so douglas murray, spain has about 4% muslim population that is doubled recently thanks to immigration into that country, do you see a connection between immigration patterns and attacks like this? yes, i do. i was on your show this last week in your absence, talking about this amazing footage of people. dozens of people getting off a vote and running onto a spanish beach. this was dozens of people from subs to heart in africa going into spain. they just walked off the beach and ran into the country prior
do you know something? these countries have lived under communism. they have lived under nazism. they have lived under all these things, but yet within human life s man, i do not think they are going to buckle for one moment. when you see things like that vote coming onto the beach the other day, i think that they are pretty determined to stand their ground. tucker: why what? i m sure you could write a book on this, because a lot of psychodrama in it, but crisply, why in the world with european leaders want hungary to follow the example of germany s immigration policy? because a point about the european union is that it wants to take away the power of all the individual member states, and make them abide by one rule. and that is the part that they have had it down with the euro will, everything else, they have wanted to create the united states of europe, but the problem is this is not america,
gift shop next to it. and then at this point, you could watch through the glass part of this was when all the police started to arrive. it was armed police, uniform police, undercover police. they came from everywhere, you know? it was really quick. and kind of almost overwhelming. you really did not it did not sink him for a while until at least 10 minutes after, i realized what happened. and it was such a shock. tucker: i will ask you, you said that the van was stopped when you saw it. was there a driver behind the wheel of the van? i think that the van crashed into something. from what i have seen on the news and stuff like that so far. i think that it crashed into something, and came to like a halt by itself, you know? i don t know if they break, or if they did not, i am not sure. i just saw it out of the corner of my eye that that was where it came to a halt, because after i saw it on the news, where the