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into the conflict they have now. arthel: it is a hot war, there s no way around it. how do you negotiate that? the first thing is not stop. clearly there is no need to stop, there s opportunity to get into ukraine and learn and use them we need to keep doing that but we need to start thinking about how we can train or support ukrainians fight like ukrainians with equipment they are used to or than western systems. javelins and singers are easier to train on than others but when you get more complex systems with more requirements, it will take more time and we need to look at the equipment they are used to using. arthel: some would say why not send the best of the best, the
it seems like they do ultimately but one of the challenges in this list of the different weapons systems and talking to sources in ukraine, it s not just enough for these equipment to arrive. they come with logistics requirement, training requirement and a lot of these systems are western in origin and as simple as manual to use these systems as printed in question to be handed to ukraine, it adds challenges to their ability to employ them quickly in a conflict that doesn t change day today but changes fast enough to being asked to pull people off the front line in the east to be trained and push them back to the east to use them takes precious time and people from the fight is ongoing. our sources say that s one of the frustrations, inability to adapt western systems quickly
ukrainians. we need to depose stuff, establish positions close to the border with ukraine and feed as much as the ukrainians can bear. in this kind of scenario, we re not just providing anti tank systems with capabilities and javelins or air defense systems beyond the stingers. we need medium range defense that could go for the bombers. the ones dropping bombs from way up high. we need to provide these unmanned combat vehicles. this is not new ground. this is not risky. the turks have been doing this and it s been effective. we can do the same with western systems where it overcomes this huge deficit the ukrainians have right now. the deficit is on air power and long range fires. if we provide enough systems, they could neutralize russia s advantage, strike targets in belarus and russia, air bases,
right place at the right time. it is a massive stress test in terms of military logistics for ukraine and will be, as the war drags on in terms of the sustainability of the war effort. as more western systems gets in, it is a question of placing it at the right place to the right people at the right time in a very contested battlefield environment. hopefully, this will keep happening. and this is probably one of the only way is that the west at this stage can help ukraine sustain fighting operations and push back and start claiming victories. what operations and push back and start claiming victories. claiming victories. what is your sense of what claiming victories. what is your sense of what might claiming victories. what is your sense of what might happen i claiming victories. what is your i sense of what might happen next? claiming victories. what is your - sense of what might happen next? do you think this will be a long, drawn out conflict? do you think the ukrainians have t
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