companies. they learn from one another how to do propaganda. they have ways of working together of getting around sanctions, pushing back against not just against western diplomacy but against western ideas. they have a common one common thing, which they all fear the language of democracy and they fear the democrat i movements inside their own countries, which are larger in some places than others, but they re enough of a problem for them to care about them. so it s really in their interest as a group, even though they don t have much in common ideologically, to seek to undermine western institutions to push back against western language about human rights and to do that in a concerted way. you can absolutely see that in a number of places around the world.
opportunities. so they have ways of working together, of getting around sanctions, pushing back against, not just against western diplomacy, but against western ideas. they have a common one common thing, which they all fear the language of democracy and they fear the democracy movements inside their own countries, which are larger in some places than others, but they re enough of a problem for them to care about them. so it s really in their interest as a group, even though they don t have much in common ideologically, to seek to undermine western institutions, to push back against western language about human rights and to do that in a concerted way. you can absolutely see that in a number of places around the world. ian, in the context of this contest or tension anne described, the biden administration has held a big democracy summit. what do you make of that? is that the answer? i mean, it would be nice if
democracy, not just in america but across the world, and that s not me being, like, an american exceptionalist, although i am. that s what the world sees, as the epicenter of western democracy, of western freedom, of western ideas, of western thought. and we have image after image of thugs going in because they got their feelings hurt, they lost an election. beating the hell out of police officers with flags. going in and spreading excrement across the walls of the united states congress, the hallowed halls of congress. just mass chaos. looks an awful lot like the smash and grabs on the west coast. yet, republicans are covering it
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