chris: margie phelps, not only the daughter of the founder but was the attorney who represented the westboro church in the supreme court and did a very effective job, she said this holds a megaphone to our church and we ll picket more. we wrestled with whether or not to put her on the show. people say why give her airtime but i thought she was so much in the news and it was such an important ruling. we learned some information. we did digging about facts about the church, about her father, about some of the claims against the church that i thought it was important to confront her and people have to watch for themself and see if it was useful. shannon: it s a fascinating interview. she suggested the nine supreme court justs and the president are headed for hell. chris: it s interesting. of course it s life s easier when you set yourself us the