that many believers think are part of religion in this country and around the world treating your neighbor as you would want to be treated, you know, also giving to those in need are all parts of many, many religions as well. so in terms of looking at it, you have a different view than many others, we appreciate you sharing your view with us. and i look forward, i think many people look forward you cannot credit religion with that. you cannot credit religion with that. that s universal. that s a very good principle what you call it the golden rule. that kind of thing. yeah. it s not just religion. people can be good or bad and be based on rationality. religion sometimes helps, but it doesn t have to. just from this conversation i can tell what a heated debate there will be in the film. appreciate your time, guys. thank you both very much. well, a room packed full of journalists, but they weren t