well richard, the main point of what happened yesterday is that the cuban artist organized this rally and she s detained along with another dozen of other dissidents and act visitivistactivists. she s an artist who made a career on political art. of course she wanted to push freedom of expression in cuba. she made the point that the government s not ready to discuss seriously freedoms of expressions and civil liberties in cuba right now. right right, right. nora, what s the headline then that you ve written or will write on what the latest development means? well it means that those advocating more more engagement with cuba to democratize the island, that they have to be
at the end of the day this is a humanitarian crisis. yes, it is. and there are comparisons to genocides in rwanda, and sudan. there s a question of whether president obama as jeffrey goldberg said, as a moral man cannot do anything about this crisis and maintain his sense of morality. well richard has seen this closehand, and 70,000 killed, millions displaced. but i don t think there are any good military options, i think we need to double down on the humanitarian crisis and find ways to deal with that. it s not, there s a great diplomat named lochtar brahimi, from the united nations. who was there for iraq and let s not forget about iraq and afghanistan, when we talk about syria. our involvement in those countries has not necessarily benefitted the civilians in those countries, i think you need a political negotiated settlement that may sound far-fetched, but we are talking
justice department and the congress to figure out. but house minority leader had no trouble listing the crimes he she thinks were committed there. opposition research, documents and information from a foreign government or foreign national. plain and simple. criminal conspiracy to defraud the united states. impeding the lawful administration of a federal election or to pak an offense against the united states, cybercrimes hacking against u.s. citizens, the clinton campaign. conspiracy with respect for the espionage. joining me now nbc intelligence and national security reporter. ken delaney. the president calling the story a hoax. but getting more developments as the hours go what do we have in terms of the latest. well richard if it s a hoax it s a hoax in in case perpetrated by friends of the trumps you have mr. goldstone
happening right now, not the most masterfully done so far in terms of it giving the drip, drip, drip we re saying day seven on this story right now. there is even goldstone the promoter you re talking about. and they not necessarily getting the story consistently on one in terms of consistent in terms of what they re saying. that s the remarkable thing about this. even under the most innocent explanations for the meet meeting. if it was really a nothing burger as the trump team has been saying. the way they handled the disclosures, changing the story three times, going on television and saying i ve told you everything there is to tell when you plainly haven t done that. and even today we there is some potential that there was another person in the meeting that the trump lawyers are saying they can t tell us the names of everyone in the meeting. it s insplikable that they are violating the sort of first rule of crisis management, richard. what s going to be the follow-on this co
that 25-year-old who died after being taken into custody by baltimore police. that happened jus not too many hours ago. and then right after that about 3:00 today we did get a tweet from the baltimore police saying they were concerned about threats. against the police department and against officers. two hours later, exactly at this moment 5:01 p.m. eastern time violence has erupted to some degree there in this area. we have seen some looting. live pictures again coming out of the downtown area. joining us now is nbc s brian mooar, who is with us brian, can you hear me? reporter: yeah, richard. we just finished speaking with billy murphy the attorney for the family. he says that this is the gray family s nightmare scenario. this is exactly what they don t