whitaker, the former acting a.g. not denying a report the president called him to discuss the michael cohen case. would it be improper or illegal if trump did have these conversations? well, i m not a lawyer, don, i think as i ve indicated to you in the past and i m not a judge, so i don t sit in judgment part of we said was it proper? there s no question it was improper, and this is the kind of behavior that led chairman nadler i think at some point on your very network to suggest he saw substantial evidence of obstruction of justice. there is a pattern here that cannot be denied. again, people are trying to minimize all of this by suggesting there are no photograph, per se. well in michael cohen s case he actually brought receipts. and suggesting, well orb writs all circumstance substantial. it s all he said, she said. this is my favorite analogy. you go to bed at night, the ground is bare. you get up in the morn, snow is in the trees, 6 inches of snow