gamechanger for my patients- it really works. welcome, back former president trump s indictment in new york could be the start of a long road of legal troubles as we now know his far, vice president mike pence, will not appeal a ruling that orders hi to testify about january six t a federal grand jury it is all part of the specia counsel s investigations int the former president talk more about, this let bring in our national politics reporter, jonathan allen back again, barbara mcquade as well jonathan, let s start with you on this. bring us up to date on where w are with the special counsel s investigation. there was some back and forth, obviously with the far vic president, where he was gonn peel yet again to testifying before the grand jury. but now we know that he will b in fact doing just that. where are we on all of this?
sitting, president president biden and the former president donald trump. my question is, is it s a problem of elected officials mishandling classified information? or is the question of overclassification of documents, that is at play here? or is it both? , well jonathan, there s a couple of main points here. number, one i take and i know roger takes very seriously the headline of classified information, that sometimes these are operational secrets. americans lives can be at stake. this is very serious stuff and we have an obligation to take it very seriously. that is number one. number two, we do have an overclassification problem in the night states government. in this case we need to take a wholesale review of these documents, how they are classified and handled. separate from any one particular incident. number three, i just do not buy these false equivalency s.
stewart, along those lines, i am sitting here wondering, how then, does the republican party react to what just happened. do they react, do they reform? it sounds to me, listening to you, it sounds like they re just going to ignore what just happened and continue down their downward trajectory. well jonathan, i think that we are seeing what they are trying to do. they are trying to blame donald trump. they are trying to do to donald trump what donald trump does to anybody who gets in trouble. like, i never knew this guy, who is he? they re going to be saying that he is a before it is over. but, it is really clear that there is a civil war in the republican party. i think it is going to make like the russian revolution, it will make it look like a picnic. you look at kari lake, these people hate mitch mcconnell, they re not going to allow them to try to return to any sanity. stewart, thank you my friend
what just happened. do they react, do they reform? it sounds to me, listening to you, it sounds like they re just going to ignore what just happened and continue down their downward trajectory. well jonathan, i think that we are seeing what they are trying to do. they are trying to blame donald trump. they are trying to do to donald trump what donald trump does to anybody who gets in trouble. like, i never knew this guy, who is he? they re going to be saying that he is a before it is over. but, it is really clear that there is a civil war in the republican party. i think it is going to make like the russian revolution, it will make it look like a picnic. you look at kari lake, these people hate much mcconnell, they re not going to allow them to try to return to any sanity. stuart, thank you my friend for your analysis, and the work that you and your colleagues have been doing to save democracy in this country. it looks like all of
and that is why they don t have any agenda, they don t have any governing philosophy, and they are running all of these lunatics. i, mean a guy like blake masters? running these ads that look like the stuff they find on social media after a mass shooter? you know, oz, laxalt, these are really weird people that should not be in government. but the fact that, j.d. vance is the same, and he won in ohio. so what does that say about a party that will support that? so then stored, along those lines, i am sitting here wondering, how then, does the republican party react to what just happened. do they react, do they reform? it sounds to me, listening to you, it sounds like they re just going to ignore what just happened and continue down their downward trajectory. well jonathan, i think that we are seeing what they are trying to do. they are trying to blame donald trump. they are trying to do to donald