do that. you have the ukrainians who want help recovering what they believe are stolen assets, and also just general influence in the u.s.. and they think trump has that. rudy has that. and then you have rudy who is trying to make money kind of in between the middle of them. it s just a very interesting, as i say, confluence of various competing and parallel interests. the words money and influence come up a whole lot in that last paragraph of yours right there, matt. just final bely, what does rudy giuliani have to say about all this? well, rudy today, i can t say he disputed the reporting, but he has harped on the idea he ended up getting no money. that no deal was ever consummated. that is sort of important from a legal perspective. if he had agreed to lobby the u.s. government on behalf of ukrainian officials and didn t register under this thing called the foreign agents registration act, that could be a crime. so it is sort of key that he doesn t ultimately apparently ink a de
lutsenko. there are no details of the draft. maybe he will get a $200,000 consulting fee, $300,000 consulting fee. they contemplate involving some other allies of the president, lawyers here in town. joe degenova. it never comes to pass. it was contemplated rudy would do some work for this guy particularly with some asset kind of recovery mission he wanted. it seems clear the implication this guy was trying to buy some good will with a person close to the president. ultimately never comes to pass, but it s just a really interesting thing that we sort of reported on today. interesting is one way to put it. forge it would have given him a way to get cash from a client who was potentially getting him information on the bidens which would have helped his other client, president trump, whom giuliani doesn t charge. did i get the sequence right there? yeah, there s this weird confluence of interests here. you have president trump who wants to investigate the bidens and he wants the ukrai
capitol hill has ceded a lot of authority to the administration going back many years. then why would chuck grassley pipe in at all? because i think there are republicans who believe they need to speak out. what we ve seen in this administration since the beginning of 2017 is congress speaks out and doesn t do much on the other end. lindsey graham, for example, is supportive of this after being against tariffs for a long time. it s funny, i was on the phone with people from the white house last night who were saying this is counter to our message that the northern triangle countries, not mexico but other countries in the region have more to do with illegal immigration than mexico. so this runs counter to what the white house has been saying for years, yes, mexico has a role to play, by the way, it s also american immigration laws. the president has said the border needs to be tightened. this is a weird confluence. but jake, isn t the president s argument here, he s not decipherin
that makes great rock stars great rock stars. used to be chalk lines on the football field. there s a weird confluence of events, synergy, i don t know what it was. i spend most of the weekend when i was in the car listening to the tom petty channel on sirius xm radio. it reminded me once again that millions of artists that are out there. millions of rock and rollers and singers, tom petty, you listened to everything you listened to the whole song. you wouldn t change you just listened to all of it. incredible writer of sons. incredible performer. but bizarre that he would die this way. let s get back to the two major challenges for the president who goes las vegas tomorrow. after touring puerto rico today, joining us now from washington senior political analyst for nbc news and msnbc, mark hall persoperso
makes her daughter thinks she s cool, but i don t know. i may have pushed it. it s a weird confluence, valerie jarrett, rahm emmanuel and roger ailes all sitting together. it was not the washington correspondents one but the d-list one, tv and radio one. it was a crazy combo. i will say i m amazed at how these washington people sit around and next to each other. what do you think his legacy ailes legacy is going to be? i think truthfully his legacy is going to be the way he treated women, i really do. especially when you look at the chorus of people backing him up. who wants sean hannity having your back? nobody wants tucker carlson i m not pro botox anymore, but he could use a lot. look, he s scaring my mother. my mother can t hear so well. she watches tucker, and she s confused and she turns her head like a cat. it s too much for her. it s too much for her. i have to get to the reason that you are here, not just to see me, of course. of course i want to see you but i