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think what you said is what kent conrad said, you don t think we ll default, is that right. i don t believe we will, but eventually we are, yes. bill: well, what about a downgrade, next wednesday, august 2nd. absolutely. i mean, what do they say, you need to cut $4 trillion over the next decade to avoid a downgrade and speaker boehner s proposal was 3, i feel for him, he has been working with the president for weeks be a every time they come to a big deal, they throw more revenue on the table and move the goal post and we are a few days away, because the white house never pulled the trigger and said no to everything and never put their own plan on the table. so, in response we shouldn t come up with a plan that doesn t get to $4 trillion and you know how much the boehner plan cuts in 2012? $1 billion. you know how much we borrow a day? spend a day? $10 billion. so, the plan saves us 6 hours of federal spending. and it doesn t pass the smell test. bill: what you are saying, then,

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